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Created On: 26 March 2014 09:59 AM
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 26 March 2014 09:59 AM
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BilalQureshi

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Hi,

I am interested to apply for CEng. I need evaluation for my profile. Kindly have a look on my profile under the following link and let me know is it the best time for me to apply for CEng ?

Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/bi...eshi/4a/ab8/776


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Bilal


Edited: 30 March 2014 at 10:25 AM by BilalQureshi
 29 March 2014 06:48 AM
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SAVIO

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After reading your profile, I think your CV is impressive. Yes, you can apply for CEng. I suggest you may talk to a PRA or find an IET mentor.
 30 March 2014 10:18 AM
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BilalQureshi

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I am wondering about how much experience is strictly required for CEng ?

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 31 March 2014 04:10 AM
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SAVIO

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There is no requirement on the minimum years of experience to apply CEng. As long as you can meet all the 16 competence elements of CEng application form, you are qualified to apply.
 31 March 2014 01:52 PM
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BilalQureshi

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Can I get my money back just in a case if my application for CEng is refused ?

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 31 March 2014 05:18 PM
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mbirdi

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You pay the IET for putting in the man hours assessing your application. If you're not successful then it's not their fault; they still have to be paid for their efforts. In reality they probably turn down more applications per year then accept successful ones. It would be a shame to refund all those who've been unsuccessful; and besides the money helps keep the membership fees down and refurbish the buildings.

So the answer is a most likely no.
 31 March 2014 06:49 PM
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westonpa

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Now the real reward would be to get your money back if you succeed!

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 01 April 2014 08:39 AM
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DavidParr

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There is a great deal of work (and paperwork) involved in progressing a professional registration application through to completion. It is a rigorous, multi-stage, process involving a number of volunteers and administration staff. I doubt the costs are fully covered by the applicant's fee, particularly for the more complex cases where a lot of extra form filling occurs to ensure the candidate is treated in a fully professional manner. As a PRA I have received some of this paperwork so I know what is involved. It is fortunate that a lot of this work is completed by unpaid volunteers otherwise professional registration would cost well into three figures, if not more.

The processes are under constant review. The vast majority are completed to a high standard, and everything possible is done to ensure that, in the few cases where things don't go smoothly, integrity is maintained.

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David Parr BSc.CEng MIET
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 01 April 2014 04:09 PM
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roybowdler

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All members making a registration application are encouraged to consult one of our Professional Registration Advisors to reduce the risk of an unsuccessful application. Advice and support are provided free of charge and the fee for formal assessment is (by UK standards) modest.

Overall the IET gains nothing financially from unsuccessful registration applications and sometimes suffers the ire of those who are disappointed. As has been pointed out, the IET conducts an assessment process under Engineering Council regulations, in which fine judgements are made by trained volunteer members. The number of disappointed members has been running at circa 10% of applications, including some where we have to formally advise our member to apply for a different category of registration, more appropriate to the evidence of achievement presented. In a small number of situations we may consider ourselves not currently competent enough to assess to our usual standards, in a specialist area of activity. In such cases we refund the assessment fee.

My advice to any member would be

. Please do not apply for registration as a Chartered Engineer unless you can present evidence of sustained achievement in a technically leading role underpinned by excellent academic qualifications and/or very substantial work-based learning gained over an extended period.
. Please do not apply for registration as an Incorporated Engineer unless you can present evidence of sustained achievement in a professional engineering role underpinned by strong formal qualifications and/or substantial work-based learning gained over an extended period.
. Please do not apply for registration as a Technician unless you can present evidence of sustained achievement as a competent practitioner underpinned by good formal qualifications and/or work-based learning gained over a significant period.

There are of course some finer points and grey areas, but if all potential applicants kept these tests in mind there would be fewer disappointments.

Please also note that we seek to ensure independence of judgement from any improper influence, so the judgement is not about you, it is about the quality of your evidence, verified by an interview. For disappointed applicants there is always the possibility of success at a later time, if they can improve their evidence of achievement. However, please note that the passage of time alone, is not evidence of achievement, although some of our older members might disagree!

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Roy Bowdler IEng FIET FCIPD
IET Registration & Standards

Edited: 01 April 2014 at 04:21 PM by roybowdler
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