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 18 August 2013 08:42 PM
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g7jwr

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Well i sent in copies of my level 2 and level 3 certificates along with every other certificate i have, which is a good few, plus an upto date cv and support letter from my employer

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 19 August 2013 01:42 AM
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Basically what they ask on the application form.

A friend of my also applied aroud Jull 12th and still waiting for the answer.
He had to provide level 1, 2 and 3 and additional info smilar to what you mentioned.
 19 August 2013 03:19 AM
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g7jwr

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Well the other thing I should have said i applied for both via email, rather than sending in hard copies this may have speeded things up a bit and i did it this way because i wanted to make sure i got the applications in before the cut off date.
Just wish my EngTech application would go as fast as i applied for it about the same time
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 19 August 2013 12:18 PM
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What's a Full Technical Certificate?

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 19 August 2013 06:31 PM
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g7jwr

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Please see the link below for city and guilds

City and Guilds FTC
 19 August 2013 06:38 PM
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g7jwr

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This was taken from the city & Guilds Site

Level 3

City & Guilds = SVQ/NVQ level 3, Level 3 vocational awards, IVQ Technician Diploma, IVQ Advanced Diploma, Level 3 International Awards*. Academic = A-Level, Scottish higher.
Other = AVCE, BTEC National, Certificate/Diploma, Vocational A-Levels.

Level 4

City & Guilds = Licentiateship (LCGI), Higher Professional Diploma, SVQ/NVQ level 4, Level 4 vocational awards
Academic = Undergraduate
Other = Full technical certificate, BTEC HND/HNC
Level 5

City & Guilds = Diploma SVQ/NVQ level 5, Level 5 vocational awards, IVQ Advanced Technician Diploma
Academic = Undergraduate
 19 August 2013 06:46 PM
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TomG

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Thanks, I don't have any other C&G quals and am just waiting for my LCGI Engineering cert to come. So I'm not sure I either could or should apply for a FTC anyway?

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 19 August 2013 07:33 PM
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g7jwr

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If they have given you your LCGI i would apply for the FTC as well, but i am sure others on here would have more idea

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 19 August 2013 07:38 PM
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TomG

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Am I able to do that though because I have no previous City & Guilds level 2 or 3 as your link says?

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 19 August 2013 09:57 PM
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I think the correct certificate name is Full Technological Certificate.
I think you have t have the city and guilds level 2 and 3 in order to be qualified FTC.
Tom , you may want t email them about FTC. requirement will they take LCGI instead of Lev 3 and 4.

City and guilds weights it FTC as equal to HNC.
 19 August 2013 10:02 PM
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Thanks, but I thought they identified LCGI as being equal to HNC (a level 4 qual)?

Would I have to surrender LCGI in order to 'upgrade' it to FTC?

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 20 August 2013 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by: TomG

Thanks, but I thought they identified LCGI as being equal to HNC (a level 4 qual)?



Would I have to surrender LCGI in order to 'upgrade' it to FTC?


The LCGI is equal on level 4 as FTC.

No surrendering LCGI required. I do think that they offer FTC as upgrade for these who hold level 2, 3 City and Guilds certificates.
It is detailed on their application form for FTC.

What I meant is that I don't know if they will accept LCGI for FTC.
I think they want the level 2, and 3 certificates.
 20 August 2013 05:59 PM
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Cheers, do you think there would be any point in me getting a FTC to go with my LCGI Senior Award - if it is possible? I'm not sure what benefit I see it adding? Thanks in advance.

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 21 August 2013 11:20 AM
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In my opinion

FTC is viewed as formal education, as when a person goes to an Institute studies for a year or more and graduates with certificate.

LCGI based on formal education as well, For most of the LCGI awards leel 3 required or compatible, then further study to a level 4 or
approved 5 years of experience etc.


It is easier to go to university for advanced placement in to final 2 years of BEng degree with FTC. As it (correct me if I'm wrong) comes with a supplement listing actual classes. The supplement also makes it more acceptable in other countries.

I noticed that LCGI according to City and Guilds is on the level of HND wile FTC is on the level of HNC.

So why not apply for FTD instead.?


Notes on the Full Technological Diploma
To be eligible for the Full Technological Diploma the candidate must meet the following
criteria:
Candidate must supply copies of and have achieved a Technicians Diploma (applied) and
Advanced Technician Diploma (applied) in one of the following awards (except 2720)
2720 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineering
2730 Telecommunication Systems - (applied)
8030 Electrical and Electronic Engineering - (applied)
3905 Motor Vehicle Engineering and Management - (applied)
2565 Applied Mechanical Engineering
6165 Construction - (applied)
7235 Applied Information Technology
These diplomas must have been awarded by City & Guilds.
Candidate must supply a portfolio of evidence which must include
1. A summary of the candidate's work experience at least two years' work experience at
a level appropriate to the advanced diploma syllabus
2. Letters from each employer confirming the candidate's work experience at
supervisory level
3. A Curriculum Vitae (CV)
The portfolio may include any other information which the candidate considers relevant.
Candidates are requested to take the utmost care to ensure that the details entered on this
form are accurate to avoid delays in issuing the FTD.
Return completed application form along with payment to:
Archive Services, City & Guilds, 1 Giltspur Street, London EC1A
 21 August 2013 03:40 PM
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Thanks, I will look into it once I receive my LCGI cert - but it reads to me like I will not be able to apply given that I have no previous C&G diplomas it appears to ask for.

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 26 August 2013 04:08 PM
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g7jwr

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well just got from sea on friday and both my FTC and LCGI where waiting at home for me very fast service from the city and guilds
 26 August 2013 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by: g7jwr

well just got from sea on Friday and both my FTC and LCGI where waiting at home for me very fast service from the city and guilds


Congratulations!!!

All I can add is that since I earned my first LCGI some 10 years ego, to then another LCGI and GCGI all serve me well. Helps to stand out with competing for jobs.
Highly respected by employers here in USA.

Now I'm waiting for MCGI that is in the mail.
 26 August 2013 08:28 PM
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1. In addition to be Royal Charter ( US RA equivalent) awards. They are now also are NQF (National Qualifications Framework) accredited qualifications.



http://www.degreeinfo.com/gene...cognition-awards.html


(What is US RA )
 27 August 2013 09:30 AM
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g7jwr

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Thanks for the congrats, think i may have lost out a bit as i think i should have applied for a second LCGI in management along with the engineering one, i have been a bit cheeky and emailed the C&G to see if they will still do it.
I am pleased to see they are good for the US as my aim is move over the pond.

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 27 August 2013 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by: jcm256

1. In addition to be Royal Charter ( US RA equivalent) awards. They are now also are NQF (National Qualifications Framework) accredited qualifications.







http://www.degreeinfo.com/gene...ion-awards.html





(What is US RA )


RA in USA means Regional Accreditation.

In USA there are many Accrediting Agencies.

All the legitimate Accrediting Agencies are listed with the CHEA - Council for Higher Education Accreditation and also recognized by Department of Education.

Some Accrediting agencies serve as Institutional Accreditors, they visit, research, check and accredit the whole university or Institute,

The Gold Standard and the most recognized in USA and the world are the Six Regional agencies.

The followed by National Accreditors - such as DETC.

In US there is also Professional Accreditation of Programs in Universities.

ABET accredits Engineering Programs.
AMA - Medical Programs etc.
There are hundreds of specialty and professional accrediting agencies.

Then there are unrecognized agencies, accreditation mils, they usually existto accredit diploma mills.
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