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Topic Title: CEng: Technical Interview v Professional Review Interview
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Created On: 06 August 2012 01:28 PM
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 06 August 2012 01:28 PM
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PedroM

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Hi,

I have an non-honours degree yet a lot of experience and will shortly be applying for CEng.

Is it likely I will get a technical interview? I have heard this is completely different from the professional review interview which is almost an authentication process on the details on the form.

Therefore if I have to go through a technical interview will I get grilled on what I have done? My experience is really varied therefore I will have to do a lot of revision!

Any guidance appreciated.
 06 August 2012 09:49 PM
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dlane

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See if you can find a professional registration advisor (PRA) for your area or if you are lucky a few patrol these forums and may offer assistance.

Is your degree a Bachelors or a Masters? If a Bachelors then you will need to provide evidence of further learning up to the Masters level which will probably be your biggest stumbling block.

I believe the technical interview is based around a technical report that an applicant is invited to submit if there is not enough detail within their application to support them in going straight into a peer review interview so you will be the one controlling the the content of the interview based upon what you write in the report.

Kind regards

Donald Lane
 08 August 2012 09:06 AM
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PedroM

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Originally posted by: dlane

See if you can find a professional registration advisor (PRA) for your area or if you are lucky a few patrol these forums and may offer assistance.



Is your degree a Bachelors or a Masters? If a Bachelors then you will need to provide evidence of further learning up to the Masters level which will probably be your biggest stumbling block.



I believe the technical interview is based around a technical report that an applicant is invited to submit if there is not enough detail within their application to support them in going straight into a peer review interview so you will be the one controlling the the content of the interview based upon what you write in the report.



Kind regards



Donald Lane


Thanks for that Donald - it does seem a bit clearer.

I do think I am at Chartered level, as I have worked with a few, many of them considerably younger with less experience. My application form is almost ready and I was just wondering how much I would have to prepare.

Thanks Again.
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 08 August 2012 05:48 PM
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roybowdler

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It is important for members without exemplifying qualifications to describe clearly within their application, examples of work that illustrate knowledge being applied at the benchmark level. A PRA can help. Once your application comes to the IET it is reviewed by an initial scrutiny panel. This panel may request further information, refer the application to specialists for more in depth consideration, or recommend a Professional Review Interview (PRI).

A PRI will only be arranged if any doubts about underpinning knowledge and overall competence have been reduced to the extent that they can be resolved within an hour or so. Where it appears that the member is carrying out work appropriate to the registration applied for, but the extent of their knowledge isn't clear, then this doubt has to be dealt with.

We will request an example of the applicant's work which best illustrates their technical capability. Guidance is given and we are reasonably flexible on what this might consist of. Ideally it will be something readily available such as an engineering report, but drawings, designs, artefacts, patents, papers and dissertations have all been used. See professional registration further learning on the website.

Once we receive the submission it will receive an interim review and advice may be offered. If in the opinion of IET assessors there is a realistic prospect of suitable knowledge being demonstrated, then a Technical Interview will be arranged.

The success rate is good and in many cases any delay created is reasonably slight, but I'm afraid a few applicants don't have strong evidence readily available, misunderstand what is expected or in worst case feel "slighted". The standard expected is that of a comparable registered engineer at similar career stage. It is not a test of an academic syllabus, although some reference points derived from exemplifying qualifications are used by the assessors to ensure quality and consistency.

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Roy Bowdler IEng FIET FCIPD
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 09 August 2012 10:15 AM
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PedroM

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Originally posted by: roybowdler

It is important for members without exemplifying qualifications to describe clearly within their application, examples of work that illustrate knowledge being applied at the benchmark level. A PRA can help. Once your application comes to the IET it is reviewed by an initial scrutiny panel. This panel may request further information, refer the application to specialists for more in depth consideration, or recommend a Professional Review Interview (PRI).



A PRI will only be arranged if any doubts about underpinning knowledge and overall competence have been reduced to the extent that they can be resolved within an hour or so. Where it appears that the member is carrying out work appropriate to the registration applied for, but the extent of their knowledge isn't clear, then this doubt has to be dealt with.



We will request an example of the applicant's work which best illustrates their technical capability. Guidance is given and we are reasonably flexible on what this might consist of. Ideally it will be something readily available such as an engineering report, but drawings, designs, artefacts, patents, papers and dissertations have all been used. See professional registration further learning on the website.



Once we receive the submission it will receive an interim review and advice may be offered. If in the opinion of IET assessors there is a realistic prospect of suitable knowledge being demonstrated, then a Technical Interview will be arranged.



The success rate is good and in many cases any delay created is reasonably slight, but I'm afraid a few applicants don't have strong evidence readily available, misunderstand what is expected or in worst case feel "slighted". The standard expected is that of a comparable registered engineer at similar career stage. It is not a test of an academic syllabus, although some reference points derived from exemplifying qualifications are used by the assessors to ensure quality and consistency.
 09 August 2012 10:26 AM
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PedroM

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Originally posted by: roybowdler

It is important for members without exemplifying qualifications to describe clearly within their application, examples of work that illustrate knowledge being applied at the benchmark level. A PRA can help. Once your application comes to the IET it is reviewed by an initial scrutiny panel. This panel may request further information, refer the application to specialists for more in depth consideration, or recommend a Professional Review Interview (PRI).



A PRI will only be arranged if any doubts about underpinning knowledge and overall competence have been reduced to the extent that they can be resolved within an hour or so. Where it appears that the member is carrying out work appropriate to the registration applied for, but the extent of their knowledge isn't clear, then this doubt has to be dealt with.



We will request an example of the applicant's work which best illustrates their technical capability. Guidance is given and we are reasonably flexible on what this might consist of. Ideally it will be something readily available such as an engineering report, but drawings, designs, artefacts, patents, papers and dissertations have all been used. See professional registration further learning on the website.



Once we receive the submission it will receive an interim review and advice may be offered. If in the opinion of IET assessors there is a realistic prospect of suitable knowledge being demonstrated, then a Technical Interview will be arranged.



The success rate is good and in many cases any delay created is reasonably slight, but I'm afraid a few applicants don't have strong evidence readily available, misunderstand what is expected or in worst case feel "slighted". The standard expected is that of a comparable registered engineer at similar career stage. It is not a test of an academic syllabus, although some reference points derived from exemplifying qualifications are used by the assessors to ensure quality and consistency.


Roy,

Many thanks for that - very insightful.

I am sure a PRA will be able to help me but if someone could offer some guidance on the technical elements on my application form then I would appreciate it. I have 15 years post graduate experience therefore I want the breadth of my skills to be stated, however I already have 4-5 pages of experience and if I go into much more detail then this may expand to 6-7 pages.

For example, I have overruled a decision to replace an existing assembly with a new one to facilitate a new supply to new plant on a site. Do I say I complied with BS EN 61439 in the modification of a switchgear assembly whilst saving the client £x, or do I state that the reason I chose not to replace an existing assembly is because I calculated the heat rise in the existing assembly was within the constraints of clause XXX BS61439?

Again, I carried out a feasibility study on inter-site control using fibre networks, MPLS networks, DSL, and 3G, assessing cost / bandwith / timescales of installation. Do I simply state this or on the application form, again signed off by 3 CEng supporters, or should I discuss the benefits and limitations of each technology?

Obviously my aim is to demonstrate my competences but I dont want to go overboard on the application form.

Kind Regards
PM

Edited: 09 August 2012 at 10:36 AM by PedroM
 09 August 2012 04:17 PM
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roybowdler

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Pedro

I'm afraid I can't offer the right quality of personal advice to you through a forum. Make contact with a Professional Registration Advisor (PRA). Several are active in these forums and one may contact you. If this proves impratical, then contact the registration department directly via the website. As a general observation, if you are precise about what you personally did, then assessors are more likely to understand from their own experience, the knowledge that you applied. The examples that you suggest seem to be broadly on the right track. ie analysis and justification.

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Roy Bowdler IEng FIET FCIPD
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 10 August 2012 01:50 PM
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PedroM

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Originally posted by: roybowdler

Pedro



I'm afraid I can't offer the right quality of personal advice to you through a forum. Make contact with a Professional Registration Advisor (PRA). Several are active in these forums and one may contact you. If this proves impratical, then contact the registration department directly via the website. As a general observation, if you are precise about what you personally did, then assessors are more likely to understand from their own experience, the knowledge that you applied. The examples that you suggest seem to be broadly on the right track. ie analysis and justification.


Roy,

Thanks again, I will await a reply from my PRA and then its fingers crossed!

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 28 August 2012 02:03 PM
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BilalQureshi

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how to find PRA ?

please let me know

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Bilal
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