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 21 July 2016 09:52 AM
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acsinuk

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Lots of articles in IET magazines about low carbon and complex energy source mixes. But what about the housing need as well?
My favourite idea for London would be to build a new low energy loss town around a combine cycle power station to make use of the waste heat in Beckton or Thamesview areas with 20,000 starter homes using only 100 watts of electricity each with 100 watts of heating piped in as well.
Central will be pedestrian shopping mall in gardens area with circle of high rise 300 metres out and beyond that underground carparks, power plant and kilometre wide natural habitat walking/jogging area
forested in parts; with several cedar home park sites within to enhance security
 21 July 2016 05:13 PM
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ectophile

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I think 100W is a bit optimistic, even if that's meant to be averaged out over a whole day. For example, an A++ rated fridge freezer will average around 23W. That's a quarter of your budget gone. Using the washing machine once a day would be another quarter gone. You'll be living off microwave ready-meals, because you can forget using an oven or hob. Then you can sit and eat your ready-meal watching the portable TV (big ones take too much power). Or you could use the laptop (desktop PCs are too power-hungry). And no, the kids can't have their own gadgets. that would completely blow the power budget.

You've also missed hot water. Unless you expect people to take cold showers.

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 23 July 2016 06:21 AM
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handjiev

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Going on your proposition acsinuk - the final destination is the Socialism where you did not live in. Monopoly on the wasting electricity plant and then on the Central heating plant would cause increasing of the price of electricity and heat and then would cause you to pay bill for 100 W as a 100 kW.
And ectophile is totally right. The normal consumption of electricity is around of 200 kW per household. The idea is not to have a cheep electricity source, but having less consumption of the existing electricity supply. The Utility companies are doing their best to have less losses and to increase their profit.
That is why the "Case assistance drowning - the handiwork of drowning". Everybody would find a his own solution how to decrease his bills.
There are couple of things everybody could do to decrease their electricity bill. Do not be so stupid to follow the idea of switching lights off on the day of the Earth - energy could not be stored, but the generation power plant are producing a lot. When everybody turn the lights and other consumption off, it could cause big damage to the power grid.
1. Replace all bulbs in your home with LED or Energy Saving ones;
2. Do the thermo-sealing of windows (double glassed aluminum) and walls;
3. Do not use the central heating, but Air conditions instead. The effectiveness of the central heating is 30% (you are paying for 100%). The effectiveness of air conditions is 80%.
4. Take a ground floor or under ground floor flat for living. In this case you would pay less bills and would have more privacy
 23 July 2016 02:05 PM
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acsinuk

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I am lucky as I live in the countryside and use solar vacuum water heater to heat the water with a 12 volt DC brushless pump so heating costs nothing in summer. I also have a large PV panel which charges the batteries for light and TV at nights.
As yet can't find a small 12 volt fridge that is efficient enough not to flatten the batteries overnight! Any suggestions?
Of course the starter apartment will not have this option and must rely on the power station to supply their electricity and low grade heat.
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