Originally posted by: Zuiko
Westonpa, you are letting a very simple process confuse you.
Your ideas are a stream of logical fallicies, such as argument from ignorance and argument from personal incredulity. It is extremely common in such debates, especially from those that that are prone to incredulity. It is not very constructive.
"The scientist has a lot of experience with ignorance and doubt
and uncertainty, and this experience is of very great importance, I think. When a scientist doesn't know the answer to a problem, he is ignorant. When he has a hunch as to what the result is, he is uncertain. And when he is pretty damn sure of what the result is going to be, he is still in some doubt. We have found it of paramount importance that in order to progress, we must recognize our ignorance and leave room for doubt. Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty - some most unsure, some nearly sure, but none absolutely certain
." Richard Feynman
"It is important to realize that in physics today, we have no knowledge what energy is." Richard Feynman
"Energy, "is an abstract concept invented by physical scientists in the nineteenth century to describe quantitatively a wide variety of natural phenomena." David Rose
"Energy is a mathematical abstraction that has no existence apart from its functional relationship to other variables or coordinates that do have a physical interpretation and which can be measured. For example, the kinetic energy of a given mass of material is a function of its velocity, and it has no other reality." 'Theory and Problems of Thermodynamics'
"The first law of thermodynamics is merely a formal statement asserting that energy is conserved. Thus it represents a primitive statement about a primitive concept." 'Theory and Problems of Thermodynamics'
"If we want to solve a problem that we have never solved before, we must leave the door to the unknown ajar
." Richard Feynman