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Topic Title: GSM RF PLANNING Topic Summary: Created On: 14 March 2005 10:37 AM Status: Post and Reply |
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HI
I am a GSM RF planner in an Ericsson operator , I am new to GSM although I have a good radio background, but I think GSM is totaly new for me , I am looking for a documment/book that can provide me with a soild background,that can help me with my career. Please recommend a good reference for me so I can find professional and practical info about GSM: cell planning propogation models,(Teletrafic/capacity planning, frequency planning , site prediction ,link budgets,site surveys,dimensioning, introducing GPRS ,.., for both indoor and out door.............. everything from Ato Z. |
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Hi Bagouri
You might want to have a look at the IEEs library, might be easier and cheeper than buying a book or books that might not answer all the questions that you have. I am not sure where in the world you are but you might want to look at 3G rather than trying to concentrate on GSM. Regards ------------------------- Eur Ing John Colquhoun CEng MIET Si Je Puis Clarior Hinc Honos Operations Manager - Telecommunications (Scotland) <img src="/forums/forum/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> |
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I recently wrote a short note on this for the satellite role in 3G.
Although the cell design as at a supeficial level, you may find some aspects helpful. Regards aj C Eng MIEE |
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3G NETWORK RADIO INTERFACES
There are five types of 3G radio interfaces specified under ITU Recommendation ITU-R M.1457. Some 2.5G systems will be able to deliver 3G services, so that it will be difficult for users to tell the difference. (GSM GPRS, IS-95 and CDMA 2000 1X) ? IMT-2000 CDMA Direct Spread, also known as UTRA FDD including WCDMA in Japan, ARIB / DoCoMo recommendation. UMTS is developed by 3GPP. ? IMT-2000 CDMA Multi-carrier, also known as Cdma2000 (3X) developed by 3GPP2. IMT-2000 CDMA2000 includes 1X components, like cdma2000 1X EV-DO. ? IMT-2000 CDMA TDD, also known as UTRA TDD and TD-SCDMA. TD-SCDMA is developed in China and supported by TD-SCDMA Forum ? IMT-2000 TDMA Single Carrier, also known as UWC-136 (Edge) supported by UWCC ? IMT-2000 DECT supported by DECT Forum. 3G NETWORK PLANNING The cost of 3G roll-out is heavily dependant upon the number of BTS?s and BSC?s. The number of BTS?s is dependant on the overall network coverage required, divided by the cell size. The cell size is determined by the link budget and capacity estimations. The number of BTS?s and BSC?s are minimized by the turn-key network providers, in order to generate the lowest bid-price to the operator. In addition to the calculated number of BTS?s required, a factor of say 10% is added to provide quality cells (CEO?s residence, Golf Club etc), and to fix mobile reception holes, and tunnels etc. The location of BTS?s and BCS?s are also controlled by the availability of friendly properties to physically locate the stations. The use of heritage sites has obvious advantages, in acquiring permission and planning consent from government and local authorities. UMTS FREQUENCIES Frequency Format Channel spacing Raster kHz Comment 1900 to 1920 MHz Time Division Duplex (TDD, TD/CDMA) Unpaired 5MHz 200 Tx & Rx not separated in frequency 2010 to 2025 MHz 1920 to 1980 MHz Frequency Division Duplex (FDD, W-CDMA) Paired uplink and downlink, 5MHz 200 An operator needs 3 to 4channels (2*15 or 2*20MHz) to be able to build a high speed, high capacity network. 1980 to 2010 MHz Satellite uplink and downlink 2170 to 2200 MHz 3G NETWORK LINK BUDGET A typical reverse (uplink, from handset to BTS) WCDMA link budget is provided in Appendix 4, interference from other mobiles is usually the limiting factor in CDMA systems. The link budget determines the cell size and the number of BTS?s required. The link budget includes the interference margin which is the increased noise level due to other users in the cell. Hence increasing the cell load, will require the coverage area to become smaller. The UMTS modulation, data rates, air interfaces and data compression are given in Appendix 5. 3G NETWORK CAPACITY Network capacity is estimated in two parts, firstly a single transceiver and a single site capacity is estimated. Depending on chosen Eb/No?s etc, the planned transceiver capacity is typically from 400kbps to 700kbps per transceiver. The second part is to estimate how many users each cell can support. A lot of data is required for comprehensive network dimensioning, including number of subscribers and growth estimates, traffic/user/busy hour geographic segment and required throughput including service mixes in geographic segments. A simplified downlink capacity may be as follows. During a busy hour an average user downloads 10Mbps with 384kbps, 2Mbps with 144kbps and makes one 60 second voice call. Data is transmitted at 1.1 times, because of network conditions. Service Rate Average Rate (10 Mbps/3600 sec) x 1.1 3.06 kbps (2 Mbps/3600 sec) x 1.1 0.61 kbps (60 sec/12.2 kbps)/3600 0.2 kbps Total 3.87 kbps / user / busy hour Number of users (cell capacity 500 kbps) 129 The above examples quickly serve to show that cell bandwidth is a premium, and ways of alleviating congestion due to increased rich multimedia and video broadcasts is particularly interesting to the network operator. APPENDIX 4 LINK BUDGET Transmit Mobile max power = 0.125 watt 21 dBm Body Loss - Antenna gain 2 dBm EIRP 19 dBm Receive BTS noise density -168 dBm/Hz Rx noise power -102.2 dBm Interference Margin 3 dBm/Hz Receive Interference Power -102.2 dBm Noise and Interference Power -99.2 dBm Processing Gain, 144k voice 14.3 dB Required Eb/No for speech 5 dB Antenna gain 19 dB Cable and connector losses 2 dB Fast fading margin 4 dB Receive sensitivity -121.4 dBm Total available path loss 140.4 dB Dimensioning Log normal fading margin 7 dB Indoor/in vehicle loss 0 dB Soft handover gain 3 dB Call edge target propagation loss 136.4 dB Okamura-Hata cell range 0.94 km Site hexagon coverage area 2.3 km^2 Coverage overlap for handovers 20 % Required Suburban coverage area 200 km^2 Required Suburban coverage sites 105 APPENDIX 5 3G NETWORK LINK PARAMETERS UMTS WCDMA modulation is Quadrature Phase Shift Keying (QPSK) with root-raised cosine pulse shaping filters (roll off = 0.22). 2G CDMA systems have a bandwidth of 1.25MHz while new 3G WCDMA systems have a bandwidth of 5MHz. UMTS AIR INTERFACE LOGICAL CHANNELS Broadcast Control Channel (BCCH) Paging Control Channel (PCCH) Dedicated Control Channel (DCCH) Common Control Channel (CCCH) Dedicated Traffic Channel (DTCH) Common Traffic Channel (CTCH) UMTS DATA RATES 2.048Mbps for pico-cell (and micro-cell) applications. 384kbps for medium size cells. (micro and small macro cells) 144kbps and 64kbps for large cell applications. (Large macro cells) 14.4kbps for continuous low speed data applications in very large cells. 12.2kbps for speech (4.75kbps - 12.2kbps) 9.6kbps globally (satellite) |
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Hi alanj
I was trying to point bagouri in the right direction because in my experience the act of finding the information is usually the best way of learning it. For example a book that we have been using for 3G reference is; Radio Network Planning and Optimisation for UMTS, published by WILEY ISBN 0-471-48653-1 Wiley Comms Page Chapters 2 and 4 are recommended. Also if you are interested in 3G, another source of information is the 3GPP web site 3GPP home page Other good reference books (GSM etc) are; Radio and RF Engineering Pocket Book, published by Newnes ISBN 0-7506-5608-5 Telecommunications Pocket Book, published by Newnes ISBN 0-7506-5298-5 Regards ------------------------- Eur Ing John Colquhoun CEng MIET Si Je Puis Clarior Hinc Honos Operations Manager - Telecommunications (Scotland) <img src="/forums/forum/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> |
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Dear John
Many thanks for your response. The forum is a very good opportuntiy for disemination of information and could be a real benefit to our proffession through the IEE. I would like to see the forum move to a higher level of discussion, not remain in the mure. Your response was certainly offering more support and a step in the right direction. I hope you and I, can both offer this level of suport again in the future. Regards aj CEng MIEE |
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Dears Mr. John and Mr.Alanj
Many thanks for your kind and comprehensive reply for my question I work for an operator in Sudan, we are using GSM900 and GSM1800, and will shortly introduce GPRS, I think I need to understand GSM first then snowball into GPRS or 3G.,I have an MSc degree from Portsmouth University and I think my radio background is not bad but I still need to match it with GSM, thats what I am looking for and I will be happy if you can help me with this. |
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hii this is tony
i shall give you all the latest training documents on GPRS planning& Rf optimization by motorola & siemens if you do me a favour this is very urgent## i got seleted by Ericsson my job profile is post logfile documentation n planning pls do me a favor in need a log file (TEMS 3.2,GSM) to compose macros pls upload log file (.log) at URL: Link removed Procedure: logon to the site , browse the file, then upload the file (max 150MB) @ the end of the upload a URL(location id) to which uploaded is displayed pls do forward this location id to my email address casp_raju@yahoo.com with gratitude Tony |
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HI I am a GSM RF planner , I am looking for a documment/book that can provide me with a soild background,that can help me with my career. Please recommend a good reference for me so I can find professional and practical info about GSM: cell planning propogation models,(Teletrafic/capacity planning, frequency planning , site prediction ,link budgets,site surveys,dimensioning, introducing GPRS ,.., for both indoor and out door Regards, inam |
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Dear tony, can u please give me some documents related to GSM Cell planning at inam_075@yahoo.com
Thanks in advance, -inam |
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Dont want to sound cheeky but if you are already a GSM RF Planner why do you need such fundamental information?
I find that Google is a good source of information. Regards ------------------------- Eur Ing John Colquhoun CEng MIET Si Je Puis Clarior Hinc Honos Operations Manager - Telecommunications (Scotland) <img src="/forums/forum/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> |
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Hi, jcolquhoun
Thanks for ur concern. I am actually new to this field. May b as new as just joined one month ago. Yes google is good source but that does't let u narrow ur search. if u have some documents, I will be thankful to u if u send them at inam_075@yahoo.com regards, -inam |
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The documents that I have are all Company Confidential.
If you have a look at the books that I detailed earlier in this thread, they may help you. Otherwise look at the Nokia Technical Web Page https://online.nokia.com (since its a secure server web page you have to type this into your web browser) You will have to register for this one. Also try the www.3gpp.com or GSM World web pages. Does your company not have a detailed training program for new starts? Regards ------------------------- Eur Ing John Colquhoun CEng MIET Si Je Puis Clarior Hinc Honos Operations Manager - Telecommunications (Scotland) <img src="/forums/forum/i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> Edited: 27 October 2005 at 08:58 AM by jcolquhoun |
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hi tony,
do you still need that drive test file you asked? i have some files if still need it |
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quote: hi every one i am ram i have joined this forum recentlyy |
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hi every body
i just want to know about some book on RF drive test & RF Planning. plz help me. Bikas k Singh RF Engineer Royal Telenet Pvt Ltd New Delhi |
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hello tony, can u please give me some documents related to GPRS planning& Rf optimization by motorola & siemens at jdkella@yahoo.com?
Thanks in advance Kella |
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hellio Everybody,
Can anybo send me some documents regarding RF Planning of GSM Networks , i think knowledge sharing with each other will be helpful to everybody. Thanks please send me docs on shoaib.engr@gmail.com |
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Hi
I am new eleectrical engineer in an construction field and there is plan to install gsm sites in UAE.My company recently quoted for a project and is trying to find out whether they can win the bid but they have not carefully planned to how much cost is needed to lay the foundations for gsm and also has not accounted for thenet coverage area for the site. We( our construction engineers) are providing a stable foundations for the gsm sites. To be specific, is it important to check the how much area gsm sites will cover while doing our cost analysis report. please email me informations to agmathew@fastmail.fm thanks and regards arun mathew |
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