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Topic Title: 18th Edition - BS 7671 (IET Wiring Regulations)
Topic Summary: When will the 18th Edition be released ?
Created On: 30 May 2016 01:59 PM
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 30 May 2016 01:59 PM
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Royston

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Please can you advise when the 18th Edition of BS7671 (IET Wiring Regulations) is likely to be released for use ?.... and what colour cover will it be ?
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 30 May 2016 02:24 PM
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mantutu

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If tradition follows then the 18th edition would be a Blue cover.
I would say that the 18th edition would be a while off yet, and subject to the review of documents scheduled over the next few years as part of the cenalec maintenance system.
 30 May 2016 03:49 PM
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bazza

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Just a thought on a dreary Bank Hoilday.

If we vote to Brexit, we will no longer need Cenelec, so no 18th edition? ;>
 30 May 2016 05:14 PM
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gkenyon

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Originally posted by: mantutu

If tradition follows then the 18th edition would be a Blue cover.

I would say that the 18th edition would be a while off yet, and subject to the review of documents scheduled over the next few years as part of the cenalec maintenance system.
1st version of a new "edition" would, I think, be red. (Then brown, then green, then yellow).

If there were a next amendment to "17th Edition", that would be blue. But we won't get there because British Standards have to "up-rev" after a certain number of Amendments.

It is likely to be a while off yet ...

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 30 May 2016 05:17 PM
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gkenyon

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Originally posted by: bazza

Just a thought on a dreary Bank Hoilday.



If we vote to Brexit, we will no longer need Cenelec, so no 18th edition? ;>
Interesting, but perhaps a step backwards. Worth considering that, even right now, stuff with a UK plug can cost £10 to £20 more than exactly the same product with a Shuko or IEC 884.

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 30 May 2016 10:13 PM
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John Peckham

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If the IET follow the past sequence then the 1st edition of the 18th will be red. I did overhear in the cafe at the IET that the 18th will be published in the middle of 2018 which will be numerically neat.

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 31 May 2016 09:23 AM
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AJJewsbury

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. I did overhear in the cafe at the IET that the 18th will be published in the middle of 2018 which will be numerically neat.

It might be neater to aim for the start of 2018 - that way they can get the inevitable corrigendum out while it's still '18.
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 31 May 2016 10:01 AM
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John Peckham

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A bit harsh Andy.

It takes ages for the old tuskers with the pointed heads and long white beards to produce a new edition at the IET. No doubt even after the DPC has been published for public scrutiny a few errors will go in-unnoticed.

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 31 May 2016 02:03 PM
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daveparry1

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We can but hope Bazza!
 31 May 2016 08:08 PM
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JonSteward

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https://tv.theiet.org/?videoid=8621
A video from last months IET wiring regs seminar is available.
Not free at the moment.
 31 May 2016 09:37 PM
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paulskyrme

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I hear a lot about this BSi will only allow 3 amendments stuff.

Why then are there LOADS of standards out there that have more than 3 amendments without being re-issued?

Also, it could still be the 17th Edition, just BS7671:2018, then it could carry on with the historical cover colours.

I think it's just a money spinner.

Call it the 18th edition and make everyone sit a new course, more money to spend out, with less money coming in.

I don't like it.
 31 May 2016 09:37 PM
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paulskyrme

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Originally posted by: JonSteward

https://tv.theiet.org/?videoid=8621

A video from last months IET wiring regs seminar is available.

Not free at the moment.


Free for members I believe Jon.
 01 June 2016 12:03 AM
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spinlondon

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2018 red
 01 June 2016 08:30 AM
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lyledunn

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Originally posted by: paulskyrme

I hear a lot about this BSi will only allow 3 amendments stuff.



Why then are there LOADS of standards out there that have more than 3 amendments without being re-issued?



Also, it could still be the 17th Edition, just BS7671:2018, then it could carry on with the historical cover colours.



I think it's just a money spinner.



Call it the 18th edition and make everyone sit a new course, more money to spend out, with less money coming in.



I don't like it.

Come on Paul, think of poor old hirudineans like me. Us trainers have just about exhausted the normal supply of recalcitrant candidates for 17th Edition courses. Some of us have even been seen late at night canvassing unsuspecting drunks at city centre bus stops!


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 01 June 2016 01:36 PM
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mapj1

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Ha ! hirudineans that had me reaching for a larger dictionary . Horse leaches apparently.

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 31 October 2017 04:26 PM
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btate

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Does anyone know what the transition period will be and what cut-off will be.......... installation, testing or what

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 31 October 2017 05:52 PM
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mapj1

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iet suggest here that it will be published in June 2018.
Historically building work started under previous editions finishes as it started, regardless of project duration, and for everything else there has been about 6months of side by side working , so by about Christmas its should all, or at least mostly, be (nominally!) working to the new rule book.
However, the regs are non-statutory (not legally required), so any transition period is also purely advisory, and there are not that many changes that will suddenly make things that used to be OK be declared wrong, so it will be hard to tell in many cases.

I'm sure NICIEC will still insist that all members immediately fork out for a new copy. And again at first amendment.

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 31 October 2017 07:35 PM
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psychicwarrior

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i received an invite from a college for a course in prep. for C&G 18th qual - £385 ! Lordy lordy... more money bleeding away...
 31 October 2017 08:44 PM
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dustydazzler

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£385 ouch

Better put our rates up
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