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Topic Title: EICR advice
Topic Summary: Would you code
Created On: 07 August 2014 06:11 PM
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 07 August 2014 06:11 PM
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geov

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EICR for a council flat. Kitchens were replaced about 18 months ago, with the kitchen RFC extended. No RCD was installed when this work was done.
Now, I only know about the timing of the kitchen work by chance, but the mixture of r/b and harmonised colours on the RFC was a bit of a giveaway re when the work in the kitchen might have been done.

Do I code it given what I know or do I simply note on the report and have the council chase the kitchen installers?
 07 August 2014 06:23 PM
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Isn't the kitchen install issue a bit academic - if you are reporting to current BS 7671 then you'd be noting no RCD protection to sockets and to any cables buried at less than 50mm in structure and to every circuit of the bathroom anyhow

Code 3 or perhaps a 2 if you want to make an issue of it

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 07 August 2014 06:31 PM
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geov

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Thanks OMS. Sorry, I wasn't that clear. I did mean a C3 and highlight the unsatisfactory work ( and this keeps the report at Satisfactory) or C2, unsatisfactory and it starts getting messy due to delayed letting etc.

So the question is does it warrant a C2 given the circumstances (and of course, I know it's my decision, but I do value the input and experience of others on here).
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 07 August 2014 06:41 PM
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OK - well lack of RCD protection for additional protection of sockets might well be a Code 3 - but what about lack of RCD protection to circuits of the special location - what's the bonding (and supplementary bonding) like ?

I just have this vague feeling that council flats that have been hacked about by kitchen fitters would benefit from RCD protection

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 07 August 2014 09:57 PM
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Well my thought is that a C3 for lack of Rcd to sockets is correct. But as OMS is intimating, the protective bonding and the supplementary bonding to the special location has to be up to scratch to avoid a Code 2 to the bathroom electrical installation.

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Sorry OMS was referring to a kitchen as a Special Location, not a bathroom.
 07 August 2014 09:59 PM
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I don't think a kitchen is a special location?
 07 August 2014 10:00 PM
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As usual I'm not reading the replies carefully enough!
 08 August 2014 12:24 PM
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LoL -

and to any cables buried at less than 50mm in structure


and to every circuit of the bathroom anyhow



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