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Created On: 22 April 2014 09:22 PM
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 22 April 2014 09:22 PM
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goldenboy1818

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Hi pulled a cooker out today and the outlet had bare cables hanging out of it today and was positioned right next to the gas tap. I removed the bare cables which actually ran to a faulty oven. I feel I should move the outlet really even though I didnt originally fit it when it comes to re connect the oven. Would you all do the same and do you generally leave 150mm between gas pipework and fittings ?

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 22 April 2014 09:48 PM
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alanblaby

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528.3.3
The OSG points to BS6891.
Read the notes in the pic., and you may be fine with a little insulation tape.
 22 April 2014 10:14 PM
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goldenboy1818

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surely insulation tape is not suitable....insulation tape put where
 23 April 2014 07:16 AM
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alanblaby

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You clearly havent read BS6891 (how many electricians have got that?), so what does it say in the OSG?

You are asking about gas pipes in close proximity to cables.
You need to minimise the risk to the cable, and its effect on the gas pipe, so you need to protect the gas pipe, and prevent damage to the cable.
The installation has clearly been there for many years, with, apparently no ill effects. You think the cooker outlet should be moved. There may be no need, a simple solution is to put electrial insulation on the pipe.
Read the OSG again.

Edited: 23 April 2014 at 08:00 AM by alanblaby
 23 April 2014 08:16 AM
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goldenboy1818

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The is a gas valve tap there also not just pipe work. ...surely insulation tape on the pipe is not a reasonable solution
 23 April 2014 10:26 AM
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OK, for clarity, the relevant part of BS 6891 is:

8.16 Interrelation with other services
8.16.1 General
Installation pipework shall be located or electrically insulated so that it does not touch metallic fitments which can give rise to electrolytic corrosion.
COMMENTARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON 8.16.1
The application of electrical insulating tapes should provide adequate protection where spacing is impracticable.

8.16.2 Separation of installation pipework from other servicesWhere installation pipes are not separated by electrical insulating material, they shall be spaced as follows:
a) at least 150 mm away from electricity meters and associated excess current controls, electrical switches or sockets, distribution boards or consumer units;
b) at least 25 mm away from electricity supply and distribution cables.


Keep in mind that a cooker connection plate is not an excess current device etc, nor does it contain apertures from which hot debris can be ejected - in many cases the connection plate may also be of insulating material anyway.

So it's quite possible that you may not actually have a real problem

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