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 24 April 2013 11:23 AM
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impvan

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I recently saw some meter tails which weren't the usual 7 strand, but were fine stranded like a tri-rated cable; but they still had the double pvc insulation.

I can't find them anywhere - does anyone have a type code or spec for these bendy tails??

(Got a 100A 4P generator changeover switch install coming up, and it's TIGHT!)
 24 April 2013 12:21 PM
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broadgage

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Available from RS but you have to buy 25M IIRC.

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 24 April 2013 12:37 PM
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AJJewsbury

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Not sheathed though?
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 24 April 2013 02:13 PM
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we dont allow those.

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 24 April 2013 02:18 PM
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AJJewsbury

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Google suggest type 6381Y.
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 24 April 2013 02:19 PM
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 24 April 2013 02:22 PM
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geov

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Originally posted by: UKPN

we dont allow those.



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Why not?
 24 April 2013 03:38 PM
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impvan

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That's the stuff Andy, cheers.
 24 April 2013 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by: geov

Originally posted by: UKPN

we dont allow those.

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Why not?


Because it's thier bat and thier ball and if you don't play nice and let them win then they take them home and it's the end of sports.

Didn't you have a fat, affluent kid at your school that had everything but only let you play if he could win ?

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 24 April 2013 06:55 PM
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I have seen brown and blue double insulated OR what appeared to be double insulated tails recently on the head to meter side, I will ask the next EDF meter swinger I come across where they get them from ........................

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 24 April 2013 08:03 PM
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londonlec

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Ive used the stranded tails on behalf of UKPN before. No idea where the utility firm got them from though.

They are so much easier to work with.
 24 April 2013 08:03 PM
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londonlec

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Ive used the stranded tails on behalf of UKPN before. No idea where the utility firm got them from though.

They are so much easier to work with.
 24 April 2013 08:12 PM
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Great Stuff, Until you try to crimp the right size lugs on to them....

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 24 April 2013 08:51 PM
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I think they call it tri rated cable. Ive seen it before in large panel boards.

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 24 April 2013 10:13 PM
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impvan

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It not tri-rated; i've got plenty of that. I need the stuff with the extra jacket, Andy hit the nail on the head with 6381Y.

Tri-rated is to 6381Y, what 6491X is to Tails. (!!)
 24 April 2013 10:18 PM
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paulskyrme

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OK, whatever, but none are double insulated if you check with the cable makers!
 24 April 2013 10:20 PM
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So you can't use it instead of tails (6181Y)?
 24 April 2013 10:40 PM
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impvan

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Who mentioned double-insulated? I need insulated & sheathed - both 6181Y and 6381Y are. According to Eland (a 'cable maker') apart from the stranding the only difference is that the flexible stuff has a higher voltage rating... (450/750 vs 300/500)
 24 April 2013 10:44 PM
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impvan

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So you can't use it instead of tails (6181Y)?


Well I first saw it being installed by a DNO meter-swapper, but I couldn't get an offcut long enough to see if there was a type number on it.

If nowt else, I trust that Siemens have checked the specs for themselves / I don't mind riding on the back of their research.

Next job is persuading the customer that they want a cat-flap fitting, so the generator lead (with 125A plug attached) can come into the building without having a door wedged open.....
 24 April 2013 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by: impvan

Next job is persuading the customer that they want a cat-flap fitting, so the generator lead (with 125A plug attached) can come into the building without having a door wedged open.....


Plug on one side of wall, socket on other, cable between them...?

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