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Topic Title: New Part P notifications after April
Topic Summary: Whats a 3rd party registered certifier?
Created On: 31 January 2013 09:16 PM
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 04 February 2013 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by: welchyboy

And there's me worrying about things like not having a torque screwdriver for my next inspection lol!


Is that whats going on now? You need a torque screwdriver? Wonder what the torque on a 1g 1w switch would be?

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 04 February 2013 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by: daveparry1

I agree with you there welchyboy, sort of two steps forward and one back!



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I have to disagree on this - I think things are improving you know - as it used to be two steps forward and two steps back!

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 31 March 2013 06:04 PM
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Hi All, just did a random search and found this BCO fee's sheet that applies from 1st april 2013:

http://www.sevenoaks.gov.uk/__...l-Fees-April-2013.pdf


It says:

"Where you choose not to use an electrician who belongs to an approved self-certification scheme, we will carry
out inspections of the new electrical work and test it once it has been completed. We will employ qualified
electricians for this and there is an additional fee to cover costs. "

Theres no mention of 3rd party certification, or any mentions relating to item 3.10 / 3.11 of the 2013 doc., it just says that there is a fixed price where non-scheme members undertake the electrical work, which seems to me that this is misleading to the general public - is this allowed?

2013 part p doc:


http://www.planningportal.gov....r/BR_PDF_AD_P_2013.pdf
 31 March 2013 07:03 PM
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I put this website below on before (no one interested don't blame anyone), it is from one building control what they require part P or no part P, it is from tomorrow 1 April 2013. If you scroll to the bottom of the web page, you will see the form to be completed by what the call a non-competent person and the qualifications required.
Mind you for a government body they have made a few mistakes EIC, IEE and the mind set of thinking that any electrician not registered with a scheme is not competent. (Mind you the qualifications they require for a none registered electrician might be greater than any government approved registered scheme member have)


Building Regulation Part P Electrical safety - Non competent person assessment form

To be completed by the electrician carrying out the work if not a member of a certification body such as NICEIC, ELECSA, or ECA etc.

[PDF]
Building Control Guidance Note 20
www.tameside.gov.uk/buildingcontrol/guidancenotes/note20.pdf

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 31 March 2013 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by: jcm256

I put this website below on before (no one interested don't blame anyone), it is from one building control what they require part P or no part P, it is from tomorrow 1 April 2013.




Sorry must have missed that post, interesting that they mention 3rd party certification - they must know something that we don't - it's still not available as far as I can tell? could be intesting if their 'customers' go for that option!

One things for sure - if the whole thing wasn't a watery mish-mash-post code lottery from the start, after the 6th april, it definintely will be more so.
 01 April 2013 10:06 AM
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AFAIK, the clubs are still arguing,oops, I mean discussing, the finer points of this.

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 01 April 2013 05:54 PM
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This saga of wither an electrician is competent to wire a socket in the kitchen has
been debated in the House of Lords. Woman this time voted to retain part P.

The House regrets.
Motion withdrawn.
Sitting suspended.


http://www.theyworkforyou.com/.../?id=2013-03-18a.427.8
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Third Party certification via a EICR?, what registered competent person shemes allow for this means of certification to be carried out within your rules,
None I suggest so the rules will be broken. and the Third Party certifier will have no insurance to cover any future problems.

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 02 April 2013 11:35 PM
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