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Topic Title: water bond
Topic Summary: plumbers !!
Created On: 28 January 2013 04:52 PM
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 28 January 2013 04:52 PM
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ady1

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Upon arriving to 2nd fix a kitchen, the plumber has changed everything to plastic from where it enters the house and throughout the kitchen etc. The stop cock is brass, but fitted to plastic pipes... Should i stick a clamp on the stop cock and bond it?
The plumber of course, has just cut it (presumably as it was all copper).

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 28 January 2013 05:05 PM
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What possible point is there in bonding a brass stop cock in plastic pipework is the question you need to ask yourself -

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 28 January 2013 06:04 PM
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daveparry1

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Don't be daft Ady1, if you do that you might as well bond the door hinges too ! !

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 28 January 2013 06:11 PM
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Starfire

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One Local REC used to insist you bonded the metal window frames in council housing stock.

Caused no end of fun
 28 January 2013 06:15 PM
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DOUGIE1000

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I would be routing bond to catch the rest of the water copper pipe work

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 28 January 2013 06:19 PM
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daveparry1

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I would bond after the stopcock Dougie if the rest of the installation was copper but the OP stated that it's all been changed to plastic,

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 28 January 2013 06:23 PM
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DOUGIE1000

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Originally posted by: daveparry1

I would bond after the stopcock Dougie if the rest of the installation was copper but the OP stated that it's all been changed to plastic,

Dave.


Ahhh didn't read it all,

I would be wanting my copper back at £1 a meter :-)

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 29 January 2013 07:55 PM
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ady1

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Obviously - most of you recognise me as a regular poster - and no idiot (possibly).
But a fellow spark who is not registered and had to use the LA in the same situation, was told by their inspector to bond it, as water conducts. Although not an issue, if the stop cock was plastic. Hence the question.
My opinion is the same as Dougie - but too late now - all floored, plastered, everything.

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 29 January 2013 08:41 PM
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mark2spark

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Originally posted by: ady1

Obviously - most of you recognise me as a regular poster - and no idiot (possibly).

But a fellow spark who is not registered and had to use the LA in the same situation, was told by their inspector to bond it, as water conducts. Although not an issue, if the stop cock was plastic. Hence the question.

Ady


Might as well re-route the 10mm to where the copper installation re-commences then? As the old installation might still be EEBADS reliant, I don't know what else has been upgraded obviously.
The water would still conduct from there as well

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 29 January 2013 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by: OMS

What possible point is there in bonding a brass stop cock in plastic pipework is the question you need to ask yourself -



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OMS



Isn't it possible to travel (of some sort through the water)?
 29 January 2013 10:38 PM
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AJJewsbury

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Isn't it possible to travel (of some sort through the water)?

Perhaps this is a good point to re-introduce Paul Cook's excellent (if poorly titled) paper: http://www.plasticpipesgroup.com/pdfs/earthbonding.pdf
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 30 January 2013 07:52 AM
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I liked the title!

EEBADS - ADS = EEB

Remove the middle E and you got EB which stands for
Earthed Bonding !

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