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Created On: 28 January 2013 12:21 PM
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 28 January 2013 12:21 PM
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wylexman

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Hi ive got someone who wants a landlords cert ive have liability ins can i do it and would it be a pir. is it notifiable and what rate are u charging its a one bed house.
 28 January 2013 12:26 PM
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alanblaby

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Firstly, what is a 'Landlords Certificate'?
A full EICR, or just, what the NICEIC (laughingly) call a 'visual check? Or something in between?
Notifiable to whom? The landlord? Insurers? Local Council? Your governing body?

You need to find out what is wanted, for who, and for what purpose.
Have you got Indemnity insurance?
 28 January 2013 02:31 PM
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spinlondon

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Should realy have professional indemnity insurance, as you would be providing an opinion.
Yes it would be a periodic inspection, as Alan says, could be an EICR or one of those Visuals, which I understand are not limited to the NICEIC, but also Napit, the ECA, etc.
No it would not be notifiable, as it is an inspection.
It is only electrical work that is notifiable.
 28 January 2013 03:45 PM
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geoffsd

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As there is legally/officially no such requirement as a 'landlord's certificate' there is actually no answer to your question and the requirement(s) of the landlord or agency is all you need to satisfy.

The associated cost of a full EICR is unlikely to be acceptable to the commissioners who are merely looking for someone to blame, i.e. - YOU, when/if something goes wrong.
 28 January 2013 04:14 PM
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rougediablo

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Landlords

Have a look here for some info.
 28 January 2013 04:38 PM
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geoffsd

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Are you suggesting 'guidance' from a charity is the law?
It may be good 'advice' but it has no official standing.


From the link -

Terms of Use

The purpose of the website is to provide electrical safety information and guidance to users of electricity as well as the electrical industry and other interested parties.
The content of this website is for information and guidance only. You are welcome to print off, download or link to pages on the website as long as you don't do it for financial gain.
Whilst we make every effort to keep the information on this website accurate and up to date we can not accept responsibility or liability for the content. Nor can we accept responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your computer system whilst using this website.
 28 January 2013 04:50 PM
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rougediablo

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Originally posted by: geoffsd

Are you suggesting 'guidance' from a charity is the law?



Where did I say it was the law?

I just said "info"

Then again BS7671 is not the law as it's not a statutory document
 28 January 2013 05:02 PM
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geoffsd

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I thought you were indicating that I was wrong in my original post.
 28 January 2013 05:05 PM
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rougediablo

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Originally posted by: geoffsd

I thought you were indicating that I was wrong in my original post.


No, just replying to the original question posted by wylexman
 28 January 2013 05:10 PM
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i think you have to realise that agents/LA rent officers are only looking for the basic risk assessment not a techno-bullsh!t code myth inspired four day inspectathon that some get involved in, all that is required is has it earthing and bonding, RCD's, wiring and accessories including consumer unit in good order, ie no access to live parts, pretty basic stuff really.

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 28 January 2013 05:30 PM
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techno-bullsh!t code myth inspired four day inspectathon


LoL - now that's really funny

I may borrow it for a report in the near future

OMS

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 28 January 2013 06:01 PM
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daveparry1

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I do visual reports for someone that rents houses and flats out through the local council and they are happy to accept them. I usually do a little bit more than just the visual, ie a few Zs's, rcd times, and sometimes a Ze test,

Dave.
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