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 30 November 2012 05:15 PM
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---how about this one.

"get the cut-out fuse out would be my advice---
and look the opposite way when you do it"

(and dont stick your fingers in the bottom of the cut-out)?

Regards.

bond plastic pipes? did I say that? read it again!
 30 November 2012 05:24 PM
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let it go! its the weekend!
 30 November 2012 06:24 PM
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Ohh dear ohh dear - has it taken you this long to trawl around the posts to select something to pick on then?

Not very impressive for all that effort, is it.

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 30 November 2012 06:26 PM
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Real world advise i suppose, from someone who has experience of being on the tools probably, and the head banging delays with our utility companies.
 30 November 2012 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by: UKPN

---how about this one.

"get the cut-out fuse out would be my advice---

and look the opposite way when you do it"

(and dont stick your fingers in the bottom of the cut-out)?

Regards.

bond plastic pipes? did I say that? read it again!


---how about this one.

There was a recent incident where a 22 month old child received an electric shock when inserting a foreign object into the top side of a metal clad cut out. Fortunately the child was not seriously harmed.

It is understood that the open top side of the cut out resulted from changing the meter from an electro-mechanical type to a solid state type, and removing a meter bridge, replacing this with meter tails but leaving a slot in the top of the cut out, which left live terminals exposed within the cut-out assembly.

Down to UKPN this one, stones, glass houses spring to mind.

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 30 November 2012 07:23 PM
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Down to UKPN this one
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Or the dopey parents/babysitter letting a 22 month old child play near the electrics!

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 30 November 2012 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by: UKPN

---how about this one.

"get the cut-out fuse out would be my advice---

and look the opposite way when you do it"

(and dont stick your fingers in the bottom of the cut-out)?

Regards.

bond plastic pipes? did I say that? read it again!


Are you a member of Parliament out on a jolly by any chance?

There have been others you know that have brought a level of excitement to this forum.



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 30 November 2012 08:40 PM
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asseser told me (used to be on the IEE board who wrote the regs) that you can cut the seal on the main cut out, no one has ever been prosecuted and never will be, there is only one reason that they wont put a cut our switch on the meter is cost.
 30 November 2012 09:36 PM
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Is it true hat nobody has ever been prosecuted for cutting seals?

I must have cut hundreds and have never had so much as a phone call! I'm not waiting for ukpn to turn up. Out with the cutters and snip. Pull the fuse, work safe and job done. I expect I'll get a letter on Monday
 30 November 2012 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by: leckie

Is it true hat nobody has ever been prosecuted for cutting seals?

I must have cut hundreds and have never had so much as a phone call! I'm not waiting for ukpn to turn up. Out with the cutters and snip. Pull the fuse, work safe and job done. I expect I'll get a letter on Monday


I doubt it, that would mean a lot of letters, although the DNO's will be getting a healthy subsidy from the tax payer soon, to up grade their bureaucracy...........

My advice is that you don't touch the meter seals ..

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 01 December 2012 03:14 AM
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I did a course for meter changing and I asked the trainer , why when they replaced the meters they dont installed one shots as standard. I said to him that the cost is only 8 pounds. His reply was that when they install them they charge 100 pounds.

My question is how fully qualified electricians there are not allowed to cut the seals but people without any electrical qualification can!!!!

My opinion is that you should be allowed to cut the seal, work safety and when you finished you must reseal.


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 01 December 2012 04:30 AM
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I do reseal. I buy seals at the Electricity BAY shop.
After all, I wouldn't want to be irresponsible
 01 December 2012 04:59 AM
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In the days of the old RECs they were quite strict.
If they found a seal missing and you were the last one on the job, irrespective of whether you had removed it or it was already missing before you arrived, they would send you a very firm letter.
The letter would almost threaten to cut your arms and legs off and boil your body in tar then feather it.
But they would state that on this one occasion they would not take action providing that you never repeated the offence.

It`s their property you are not allowed to meddle with it and criminally damage their seal

Now if they thought someone was cutting the seal to actually steal their electric then that would be a different matter and they did actually prosecute.

Nowadays they do not appear to give a Four X about.

Only recently I was called to one house where the "Electrician" (Kitchen fitter) had blown the cut out, bypassed with flex which subsequently melted the cut out carrier.
On my advice they contacted the DNO who ended up changing the whole cutout as it was melted so badly and were "Gobsmaked that someone had done this" , apparently they never even asked for the name of the offender though .


I must admit I never heard of anybody ever actually being prosecuted soley for cutting/removing the seal unless it was for criminal reasons or for leaving a place unsafe

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