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 29 November 2012 05:48 PM
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Westonelectrical

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Hi guys, maybe of the top of your head or with a little research could you give me a estimate price on is..

13x hf 4x36w tube 600x1200 recessed lights with klix roses
4x emergency of the same type
15x double socket over 2 rings all surface mounted
3x extra twin tube hf lights 4ft
2x battens
2x outside security lights (twin) lights
10 way grid plate all 2 way to all lights ( lights wired on 3 circuits)
2x fused spur to shutter system and shop sign lights
12 way board 17th plus all breakers with complete new earth system
All wired in lsf (complete re-wire)
3 zone fire alarm system high spec
5 fire extinguishes
The shops about 20x20 meters
 29 November 2012 07:03 PM
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where is the job?

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 29 November 2012 08:01 PM
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Westonelectrical

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It's in derby, I've given the. A price of 4000.. Apparently they were discussed and can get it done for 2000
 29 November 2012 08:16 PM
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Sounds very low to me.

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 29 November 2012 08:25 PM
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Westonelectrical

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2000. Or 4000
 29 November 2012 08:32 PM
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2K, not sure we could do it for 4K. What's the going rate day rate for sparks in Derby?

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 29 November 2012 08:42 PM
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£4000 sounds about right. At £2000 they nicked half the gear from somewhere and need the work.
 29 November 2012 08:58 PM
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Westonelectrical

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Goin rates about 15p/hr subby...just spent two days sorting it all out.. Good job I didn't get the gear on account because the job was a go ahead.. Shook hands and ready to start Saturday
 29 November 2012 09:09 PM
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We don't do shops but do the odd office that our customers buy for investments and I'd certainly want 4 and possibly a bit more.

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 29 November 2012 09:10 PM
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Bonkers at 2k.
4k to 5k sounds more like it
 29 November 2012 09:14 PM
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Westonelectrical

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I knew I was pricing around the right margin I've recently come out of my time so haven't priced to many jobs up.. Thanks guys
 29 November 2012 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Westonelectrical

I knew I was pricing around the right margin I've recently come out of my time so haven't priced to many jobs up.. Thanks guys


Well, as a check, you've about 400m2 of space for distribution, lighting, small power, fire alarms and ext's, external lighting and a lot of it is surface.

If you apply about £10m2 to that you'll be bang on £4K. That's a pretty small rate /m2 - trust me.

Look at it another way - you'll be wanting about a 40:60 split on labour and materials. Call it a weeks work plus a day for sorting yourself out at £25/hour - say 50 hours - thats £1250 - which is a bit shy of 40%, but putting you in the right ball park - you'll have to go a bit to finish 400m2 in 6 days all in including paperwork

Personally, I'd suggest you walk away if you can , if the money is less than £4k. Better to stay at home on the sofa than work hard losing hard brass

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 29 November 2012 10:06 PM
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Westonelectrical

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Materials cost near on 2000, bloody waste of my time... Forgot to add pat test on 45 items to
 29 November 2012 10:23 PM
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Some people just love to yank your chain.

I quoted for a job for a a-hole estate agent a few years ago for gate closers on his house.
HOW MUCH! i can get it done for half that! was his response.
Jog on and get someone else then was my reply.

3 years later he obviously couldnt get anyone to do it for what he dreamt up in his brain as the gates are still manual.

You can stay at home and lose money and enjoy your time off rather than give it away at work.

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 29 November 2012 10:32 PM
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Dead right. Don't risk funding contracts that show marginal profits let alone no profit. Go subbing for someone and get paid at the end of the week or just stay at home and spend the time developing your business instead of losing money
 29 November 2012 10:35 PM
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Westonelectrical

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This is why people are getting hurt and instalations are dangerous... Seems everyone I come across are self appointed electricians... He said to me why are you using grid switches they cost a fortune... I said because the inductively rated at 10amp for the 17 hf lights ur having... Some cowboy will do it and the council will pull it
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