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Created On: 21 November 2012 07:56 AM
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 21 November 2012 07:56 AM
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aligarjon

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I was thinking of changing my 50w dichroics at home for LEDS.

Has anyone tried just fitting standard non fire rated gu10 downlights with a good quality LED lamp in it.

seems to me like a much better option than paying ridiculous ammounts of money on unneccessary fire rated models in most cases with 10 year warrantees that aren't worth anything as they keep changing the look of the lights .

typically a half or third of the price

Gary

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 21 November 2012 04:04 PM
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skup53

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The fire rating is there because of the hole cut in the ceiling which degrades the fire rating of the ceiling and a building design standard.
It has nothing to do with HOT GU10's.

LED's do not like heat build up in enclosed spot lamp type fittings but Kosnic 3 led 5 watt seem to do a good job, to save energy not the price of the fitting
 21 November 2012 11:54 PM
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whjohnson

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Agree, the Kosnic KLED5PWR/GU10-830 5w 3000K colour temp ones are a good 50w tungsten substitute.
The cheapest I could find were from an online company called 'Affordable Lighting'.

They did them at £8.99 ea with free delivery over a certain order value, my local wholesaler wanted £10.74 ea!

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 22 November 2012 08:06 PM
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aligarjon

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Originally posted by: skup53

The fire rating is there because of the hole cut in the ceiling which degrades the fire rating of the ceiling and a building design standard.

It has nothing to do with HOT GU10's.



LED's do not like heat build up in enclosed spot lamp type fittings but Kosnic 3 led 5 watt seem to do a good job, to save energy not the price of the fitting



I don't remember mentioning anything about hot LED s or fitting non fire rated downlights through a fire barrier. I am aware they don't like heat build up which is why i queried the use of non fire rated models where fire rated ones aren't neccessary. ( which is probably 95% of the domestic market)

Gary

If the kosnic ones stated above are as good as you are making out then thats fine as a good quality 6 or 7 watt lamp is more than the price of that fitting. ( which makes me doubt its quality to be honest) .

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 22 November 2012 09:39 PM
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Gary,

I've found at home that certain lamps don't fit every sort of fitting. I've inherited some rather tiltable gu10's in my bathroom with no ip rating which I'll change when I get a spare 10 mins.

It's not possible to fit the auroua LED lamps in them because of the depth of the lamp so possibly worth double checking before you order.

That said I've replaced the 4 gu10's in the kitchen fitting with them and they work a treat.


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 22 November 2012 09:48 PM
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I have been using RS own brand 715-8345, Good price and a good crisp warm light. I note their instruction .............'this device should not be used in totally enclosed recesssed luminaires, should be used in a well ventilatied condition'...................

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 24 November 2012 09:20 AM
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aligarjon

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Cheers Guys. i'll try 4 first, if they don't fit i can stick them in the surface mounted light in the utility.

Gary

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 25 November 2012 10:03 AM
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Fm

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chris,

i really don't like that style of less, i much prefer the 3 or 4 less that are under a lens, looks so much more appealing from a visual point of view
 10 December 2012 03:21 PM
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maximilian

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BELL 5 watt dimmable bulb fits most of fire-rated downlights, or you can use philips perfect fit

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 10 December 2012 06:34 PM
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largelunchbox

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homebase are selling 4watt led gu10s for £4.99 each,tried some and very impressed. only drawback is there not dimmable.
 15 January 2013 06:12 PM
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24Hour

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Will 2nd largelunch box,
Homebase are doing gu10 led 2for a tenner, 3200k 4led direct gu10 replacement but not dimmable, have just brought 24 pairs for my house after buying a couple at crimbo, To try.
Must say im impressed so far, 280 lumen output so about i think about 35 watt equivilent.

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 15 January 2013 07:46 PM
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prophet

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I've now started fitting GU10 LED lamps moving away from the Halers type all in one fitting. The best LED i've tried is the Meggerman 6w 2800k 410 lm. Bout £10+VAT
 15 January 2013 09:43 PM
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kirchoffs

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Not exactly cheap but try these http://www.simplyled.co.uk/?gc...grGqp7MCFePHtAodJl0Asg
The Next Generation range are the ones I've fitted in various different fittings.
As the lamps are exactly the same size as a GU10 and a 12v 50w lamp they have fitted every fitting I've tried. The manufacture says you may have to change transformer,, but I've yet to find one I've had to change SO FAR.
We have fitted approx 100 of these with no problems yet , fingers crossed.
But as i said not exactly cheap. We purchase them through our local ED's branch

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 15 January 2013 10:17 PM
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aligarjon

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Originally posted by: prophet

I've now started fitting GU10 LED lamps moving away from the Halers type all in one fitting. The best LED i've tried is the Meggerman 6w 2800k 410 lm. Bout £10+VAT




These are the ones i have fitted at home. i am very impressed with them. i got them on-line but i see Denmans are stocking them now. (they are cheaper on-line. though) i got them through energybulbs .co.uk. first class service.

Gary

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 23 January 2013 02:42 PM
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ProsaicPoet

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I bought some GU10's from a company called Wholesale LED Lights. They were affordably priced and fit my downlights perfectly.
 23 January 2013 09:59 PM
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i can do 9w Cree's at £8.65 inc Vat + £4.95 carriage on any quantity
 23 January 2013 10:21 PM
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tillie

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Hi , I must recommend the Philips Masterled 7w.

I have installed around ninety in the last six weeks and I have found that they are as bright as a 50w halogen.

They also come in dimmable versions.

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