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Created On: 04 November 2012 06:51 PM
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 04 November 2012 06:51 PM
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John Peckham

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Any one going next Friday?

I registered but I have not received my ticket yet?

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 04 November 2012 06:57 PM
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Was going to, but I'm off to "Grain" on Wednesday, out training with ambulance on Thursday so had better put in some sort of appearance on Friday or the guys will think I'm still on holiday

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 04 November 2012 09:29 PM
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I have my ticket John and will be there providing nothing urgent comes up
 04 November 2012 09:43 PM
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paulskyrme

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Seriously hoping to be there John, if I am we'll have to meet up!
 05 November 2012 03:02 PM
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Rhino60

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Hi
I am going with a buddy on Friday- see you around

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 05 November 2012 04:33 PM
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tattyinengland

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I should see you there, all things going as planned........
 05 November 2012 07:02 PM
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peteTLM

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im there on friday....

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 08 November 2012 05:15 PM
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paulskyrme

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Just left there & got to the hotel, so I will be there tomorrow, unless the curry tonight does me in!
 08 November 2012 05:26 PM
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BrucieBonus

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Hi John

Yes, my ticket not come through also- but have just printed off the email as I think this will do instead. What time you getting there? Your name's on my bacon barm....

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 08 November 2012 05:37 PM
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John Peckham

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Brucie


Just remember who you promised your bacon roll to!

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 08 November 2012 05:40 PM
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yes, that's what I said! (Barm = roll - eh??)
 09 November 2012 08:08 PM
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Nice to see everyone today to have a catch up and meet some new faces, was a nice day, so worth the trip!!
 09 November 2012 10:25 PM
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John Peckham

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Yes good to see a lot of old friends and some new ones. Lots of members of this forum present.

I hear the industry forum on I&T and the importance of certification was not well received? I heard in the car on the way home that there were a few questions to the panel from some residents from the shallow end of the gene pool demonstrating their lack of competence which provided clear examples of the topic of the presentation.

I got a few nice freebies and splashed out on some VDE hex drivers from Boddingtons.

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 09 November 2012 10:35 PM
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paulskyrme

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John, It was great to meet you & GB.
PeteTLM introduced himself, though that was the only 3 I met!

BTW did you go to see the NIC SW in the end?
 11 November 2012 10:38 PM
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I am told by my colleagues who sat in the audience in the industry forum presentation on the topic of the Emma Shaw fatal accident when asked about what qualifications persons sent out to I&T a new installation by a QS needed the experts from the NICEIC, ELECSA and NAPIT played pass the parcel and dodged the question with all the skill of a North Korean negotiator.

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 11 November 2012 10:56 PM
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Yes, they did give a hairy fairy 'club' view in response. They didnt know what time frame the install was, and couldnt decide if it was 16th or 17th.

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 12 November 2012 09:23 PM
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Emma Shaw was not accidentally killed, she was unlawfully killed by an NICEIC contractor sending an unskilled, unqualified, unsupervised person to Test and Inspect.

My favourite bit was the complaint from someone that was in competition with three NICEIC contractors who insisted that it was OK to quick change a board and just put the circuits with faults, onto the non RCD side of a board.

Apparently the, "No worse than when you arrived" clause could be applied.

It is unfair that the NICEIC gets more stick than the other Schemes through just because they are larger.
 12 November 2012 11:16 PM
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To be fair he was looking for some sort of confirmation as to the best way to proceed, and he didnt get a definitive answer did he.

Unfortunately, the 3 panel members repeating the same rubbish wasted a lot of time when the question was asked multiple times by the same person.

Wiring aside, the fact the whole environment was soaked with water didnt help the Lady in question.

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 13 November 2012 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by: John Peckham

I am told by my colleagues who sat in the audience in the industry forum presentation on the topic of the Emma Shaw fatal accident when asked about what qualifications persons sent out to I&T a new installation by a QS needed the experts from the NICEIC, ELECSA and NAPIT played pass the parcel and dodged the question with all the skill of a North Korean negotiator.


Passion and morals? The desire to know more? The urge to get it right? The ability to say 'I don't know but I'll find out about that and come back to you'? (those latter the wisest words from my Dad about 30 years ago in a curry house on Hampstead Heath, still remembered) Caring?

I'm watching a friend who has probably just passed his 2391 exhibit a lack of all of the above at the moment so right now I doubt that any paper badge is sufficient. Your task as a teacher JP, is beyond teaching past paper questions. I've a notion that you are rather good at it, but a tough call for you in an industry that cares more and more about pieces of paper.

In passing, what do you do then, when changing a board and the new RCD won't hold and it is getting late? If essential, I put the offender on a non RCD breaker which I leave space for on old board changes, for the night, and go back the next day. I use the 'no less safe' phrase out loud to my clients. We, on here, always sort our RCD issues in the end but the time, caring etc. as above come into play on how we sort them.

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 13 November 2012 05:34 AM
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I cant wait for the day that you all visit the proper one at Harrogate then I get to meet you all

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