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Topic Title: Mounting & Wiring Socket Outlets in Bespoke Bed Frame
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 02 October 2012 04:38 PM
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jamesbevis2

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Hi,
I am required to mount a double socket outlet, 5A lighting outlet and some data outlets into a bespoke bed frame at the foot end (don't ask - interior designers afoot!)

The outlets need to be able to be disconnected by unskilled persons etc.

Can anyone think of a clever way of doing this? I have thought of using a power track at the bed head, with a socket and Kopex arrangement serving the outlets at the foot of the bed frame.
 02 October 2012 04:47 PM
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Try a coiled flexible 'kettle' lead with BS1363 plug and IEC socket plugged into a floor socket. That should allow for 'bespoke' movement.

I don't think they do remote RF mains as yet, although network connections can utilize the LV socket circuits, so wifi could be connected to the bed.....

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 02 October 2012 04:53 PM
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jamesbevis2

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Legh,

Thanks for your response - Would a fused plug top not create any discrimination issues?
 02 October 2012 05:40 PM
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AJJewsbury

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Would a fused plug top not create any discrimination issues?

No more so than a fused spur (as per appendix 15) or an extension lead (which is what is sounds like to me). Deemed acceptable in my opinion.
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 02 October 2012 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by: jamesbevis2

Legh,

Thanks for your response - Would a fused plug top not create any discrimination issues?


I'm not sure what you are asking here. However, I'll take a guess and give you that answer and you can correct me if I'm wrong.

Generally, all socket circuits, rings and radials with protective devices 20A and above will discriminate with BS1362 plug top fuses rated =<13A. there might be exceptions where high current short circuits close to the ccu are involved, but on the whole i can't see a problem.

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 02 October 2012 10:11 PM
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I would suggest an inline RCD in the supply flex, as you will have no control where it is moved

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 02 October 2012 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by: baldelectrician

I would suggest an inline RCD in the supply flex, as you will have no control where it is moved


Couldn't the same could be said of any plug-in appliance?
 02 October 2012 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by: weirdbeard

Originally posted by: baldelectrician



I would suggest an inline RCD in the supply flex, as you will have no control where it is moved




Couldn't the same could be said of any plug-in appliance?


Yep, but not many other appliances have a metal frame for somoene to sleep on.

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 02 October 2012 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by: baldelectrician

Originally posted by: weirdbeard

Originally posted by: baldelectrician

I would suggest an inline RCD in the supply flex, as you will have no control where it is moved


Couldn't the same could be said of any plug-in appliance?




Yep, but not many other appliances have a metal frame for somoene to sleep on.


True, but theres no mention of a metal frame in the OP, and if there was, wouldn't there usually be some kind of insulating material between the sleeper and the frame?
 03 October 2012 01:14 AM
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True, but theres no mention of a metal frame in the OP, and if there was, wouldn't there usually be some kind of insulating material between the sleeper and the frame?


Just imagine, green and yellow wires coming out of the carpet., with supplementary bonding wires attached to the springs of the mattress.... now that's a bespoke design !

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wouldn't there usually be some kind of insulating material between the sleeper and the frame?

Even if there wasn't, a metal bedframe would make a pretty good equipotential zone for the occupant!
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 03 October 2012 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by: AJJewsbury

wouldn't there usually be some kind of insulating material between the sleeper and the frame?


Even if there wasn't, a metal bedframe would make a pretty good equipotential zone for the occupant!

- Andy.


Well I always knew that beds were good for bonding. I suppose the metal ones give that extra tingle......

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 03 October 2012 03:22 PM
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