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Topic Title: 9.5kW shower on 40A mcb
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Created On: 28 August 2012 09:24 PM
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 28 August 2012 09:24 PM
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baronvoncaravan

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Good evening all, I'm sure i'll get shot down in flames for even asking this but what mcb/ cable size do you all use if installing a 9.5kW shower?
230V = 41A
240V = 39A
It's for a family member and i'm trying to keep the cost down for them and as we all know, cable isnt the bargain it once was
 28 August 2012 09:34 PM
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AJJewsbury

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What voltage does the manufacturer's data say the 9.5kW relates to? The last time I looked it was often 240V (presumably as this yielded bigger numbers which marketing departments seem to like) with a smaller 230V figure in the small print, but just to be safe, I wouldn't assume that.

(Technically, a shower is a fixed load, so you can get away with sizing the cable to the shower draw, rather than then MCB size - Zs and v.d. permitting of course.)

- Andy.
 28 August 2012 09:38 PM
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daveparry1

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If it's not an excessively long run and the cable isn't running through insulation 6.00mm cable will be fine (and a 40 amp mcb)

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 28 August 2012 10:47 PM
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baronvoncaravan

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Thanks chaps, the run is about 16m in swa to isolator and then T&E to shower so no v.d. or ccc issues on 6mm with 40a mcb. I was just thinking about In>Ib if voltage is on the lower end of the scale.
 28 August 2012 10:56 PM
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AJJewsbury

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I was just thinking about In>Ib if voltage is on the lower end of the scale.

If the voltage is low, then the current draw will be lower too. Showers are just simple heating elements - the fixed thing is the element's resistance. You can only read the rated kW figure at the corresponding rated voltage - at a lower voltage the actual kW draw will be lower (and the water won't get so warm).
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 29 August 2012 09:12 PM
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johnboy6083

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a MCB will draw run indefinately on 1.13x In, so at 41A, a 40A MCB is only 1.025 x In.

As the above fella mentioned, its a fixed loads, and as such doesnt require overload protection, just short circuit.

I would put it on a 40AMCB, and i wouldnt worry at all about it.
cable sized to the load as above.
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