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Created On: 24 July 2012 06:15 PM
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 24 July 2012 06:15 PM
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John Peckham

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I was just swatting up on the questions as I am doing the test again to renew my ECS card and i saw this question..

When judging "individual capability" for manual handling,
you should assume:
A: All women are equally capable
B: Young men are weak
C: All people are different
D: All men are equally capable

I need to remember I am doing an ECS test not an Equal Opportunities test!

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 24 July 2012 06:18 PM
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micjamesq

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Assume nothing - Question everything!!

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 24 July 2012 06:18 PM
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aligarjon

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is that a serious question John. lol

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 24 July 2012 06:39 PM
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It is a reasonably fair question and the answer is there, but more study might be appropriate, try;
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/manualhandling.htm
for starters.

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 24 July 2012 06:45 PM
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daveparry1

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I think the only logical answer would be C, after all, all people are different aren't they?

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 24 July 2012 06:57 PM
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As Dave, I would seriously hope.

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 24 July 2012 08:02 PM
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Is that one of those life boat canoes rocknroll?
 24 July 2012 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by: spinlondon

Is that one of those life boat canoes rocknroll?


Do you mean is it unsinkable, yes it does have small compartments filled with foam, its a P&H Capella ocean kayak, I do have a couple of others as well.

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 24 July 2012 09:24 PM
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jcm256

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Last one I did of those not that long ago (for renewal of the JIB card), the spark beside me went tick, tick, and tick and was finished in an amazing 10 minutes. This unsettled me and not realise I was ticking the question form, instead of the answer sheet,. Luckily had brought a pencil and rubber, intending to rub out any wrongs, as you always have time to go over the questions, but trying to hide all the rubbing out from the invigilator took some doing, Hope the next candidate who gets the same exam paper does not go with my answers. I did 17 modules of this type of stuff for the big H & S, but an easy one such as this can be just as sore on the nerves if you do not prepare.
Prob will get the coiled up cable, on the drum question, and Ladder out ratio. but that's all I am giving away.
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 24 July 2012 10:39 PM
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John Peckham

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Gary

Yes that is a real question.

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 25 July 2012 08:15 AM
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Ahh the good old ECS test, more like a memory test if you ask me

Do these questions never change? Taken 4 of these now over the course of the years, for my JIB cards and the questions are still the same! Providing you remember, send for the first aider and tell your supervisor, you're passed

Thinks that's why most people complete them in 5 mins these days

So what you think of the electrical questions?

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 25 July 2012 10:58 PM
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John Peckham

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Where would you go in the event of a fire?
A: To the canteen for a cup of tea
B: To the fire assembly point
C: To the site hut
D: To the fire to see what is going on

I thought A then D in that order.

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 25 July 2012 11:20 PM
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Did they not specify whether it was a coal, gas or electric fire (and if electric then how many bars) ?

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 25 July 2012 11:48 PM
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It is funny how they have answers that you would actually do. I remember a question regarding cutting yourself on site, with on answer stating, wrap it with insulation tape and carry on
 26 July 2012 11:34 AM
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John Peckham

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Done it! Just my annual NICEC Assessment this afternoon to do.

Ooops I forgot I still have not completed my 2396 project only 7/8ths done.

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 27 July 2012 07:25 PM
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BrucieBonus

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Surely the right answer is A, John??

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 27 July 2012 07:42 PM
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daveparry1

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That's rubbish, Brucie, how can all women (or all men for that matter) be equally capable? Would a woman with only one leg or one arm be "equally capable" as a non-disabled person of manual handling?

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 27 July 2012 07:53 PM
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BrucieBonus

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Careful what you say.... my user name isn't quite what it seems.....

The reply was a bit of a leg pull to Mr Peckham

 27 July 2012 07:58 PM
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daveparry1

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I did send an apology Brucie saying that I thought we were still on the original question but it seems to have got lost!

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