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Topic Title: "Tracing an Unlabelled gas meter"
Topic Summary: Lateral Thinking or Laziness
Created On: 16 July 2012 04:20 PM
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 16 July 2012 04:20 PM
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SamSparks

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Afternoon all ;

just had a call from a Lady:
She has a problem with identifying her own Companies Gas meter, in a shared occupancy commercial building. Apparently some /one of the meters are unlabelled.

British Gas have told her:
"there's nothing more we can do, you need to hire an Electrician off your own back, to do a 'Meter Trace' for which we will reimburse you"

Now, aside from what this means about British Gas(?!) is this something any one else has come across?
Do you think they mean a continuity test / long lead style set up from intake to Installation? On the pipes? On any Bonding?
Is this going to work anyway with parallel paths -To the other Office Units, and to GME?

Sorry if missing something obvious;



Sam

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 16 July 2012 04:26 PM
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ArthurHall

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sounds weird to me. The only thing I would trust is to physicaly trace the pipe.
As an after thought could a fuse finder be used?
 16 July 2012 04:35 PM
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SamSparks

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Yes , it was one of those phone calls which left my brain whirring.
I thought a physical trace would be safest, (but why did they nominate an Electrician then?)
And (of course) apparently "its all been Boxed in"

With Meter Mix ups normally they switch on an appliance then observe the dial dont they? (maybe harder with Gas)

How would you set it up with a fuse finder?

Do they send a pulse?

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 16 July 2012 04:49 PM
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It should be the responsibility of whoever owns the building to have this information.
 16 July 2012 04:49 PM
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Is there no corresponding MPRN (Meter Point Reference Number) on the bill?
 16 July 2012 04:56 PM
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If it is any form of playing with gas, surely they should be a Gas Safe registered contractor, not an electrician.

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 16 July 2012 05:04 PM
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SamSparks

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-Im assuming(?!) the MPRN is on the Bill, but not the meter(s);

-Yes The landlord (?) should have the individual details, -maybe even elevation / as fitted drawings, but...

-and yes, I thought an Electrician was a slightly odd recommendation too..



Do you think I should swerve it ? -or bounce it back at least...?

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 16 July 2012 05:29 PM
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Is it definitely gas, or is the customer confused? If its local it might be worth a look as long as you stay legal. Why turn away work?

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 16 July 2012 05:31 PM
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The gas meters will have a serial number near or in their dial.
With the MRPN the gas supplier will be able to tell you the meter serial number.
 16 July 2012 06:20 PM
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SamSparks

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Hey,
thanks for replies;

Yes I know of the Meter Point Reference Numbers, apparently the numbers are missing -or illegible.
Its definitely Gas, as we both remarked on why they'd told her only an Electrician could help.

Its a bit out of my way, although could make a trip to find out more, I guess I just wondered about what the Gas Board might of had in mind testing-wise.
-Maybe its cheaper for them to Sub things out to us than use their own Engineers!!

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 16 July 2012 06:25 PM
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Seems odd.

Our old gas CH boiler had a pilot flame sufficient to be easily seen on the gas meter dial (it got turned down at its next service). So assuming that there is gas fired CH there, the difference between boiler fired and boiler off should be clearly obvious at the gas meter.

May be one of those jobs where if local do it for free/cup of tea whatever and maybe with the good will get some electrical work (or a dozen gas meters to identify

Cheers!

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 16 July 2012 06:38 PM
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SamSparks

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maybe I should train in plumbing / gas and get rich, chuckle.
Well, I was curious, so am going to pop in & get to the bottom of it. Plus she sounds like a nice lady, which always makes all the difference I find...

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 16 July 2012 07:56 PM
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Please!................. any self respecting gas injunear would just turn off the valve by the meter and see who has appliances that stop working.


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 16 July 2012 10:15 PM
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We have to remember that it's the same British Gas who several years ago when I was in need of a metering operative failed to appreciate the difference between (in their words) "A fuse box" and (in my words) a three phase switch fuse on a business critical supply.

I suspect they heard meter and assumed the customer meant electric or possibly worse still the customer is buying the electric from British Gas and the Gas from SSE.


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 16 July 2012 10:41 PM
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--perhaps our poster is one of these multi skilled people
you see nowadays, you know with every thing on the side of
his van from landscape gardening, decorating, plumbing,
roofing, tiling and of course the obligitary electrical.

only two choices really,
1=physically trace.
2=ask all consumers to turn off all appliances and then turn
on a heavy one in premises in question.

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