Has anyone a review to offer on this book?

I cannot see it listed on this websites bookshop, is a members discount available?

Quite pricey on Amazon for a slim volume, at 67 pence per page it is to be hoped there are not many headed "this page is intentionally left blank"

No one has asked me for a charging point yet, I suspect the garage dealerships and manufacturers are in poll position to get the work anyway.

Andy

Edited: 11 June 2012 at 03:13 PM by sparkingchip

try here

There is a member discount

Regards

OMS

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Failure is always an option

Cheaper than Amazon and a extra ten pages!! I'm not sure how that pans out.

Now OMS don't laugh at me.

I have a email telling me that Ploughcroft are running a electric vehicle charging point installers course http://www.ploughcroft.co.uk/e...cle-charging-wallpods/ I was wondering if doing the course is a way in to sub contracting to them.

When I did the solar course, free at Dudley, the lecturer also runs some of the Ploughcroft solar courses at the time I looked at the set up for subbing to them as a PV installer, but have left all that on hold. Talking to guys who have set up as PV installers they are being pushed out of the market locally by a firm that consistently comes in at a grand less on quotes, it all sounds a bit dog eat dog at the moment in the PV world. The EV charging could be a sensible little addition to a one man band business if someone else was lining jobs up for them.

http://www.ploughcroft.co.uk/j...careers/pvelectrician/

Edited: 11 June 2012 at 03:41 PM by sparkingchip

This topic came up last month, at the risk of repeating myself...

I client mine has i-MiEV (Mitsubishi), they are suppling the vehicles with chargers that have BS 1363 fused 13A plug.

Another client has a Nissan Leaf, that was also sold with a charger that had BS 1363 fused 13A plug, however I have noticed that on Nissan's website they will introduce you to British or Scottish Gas who will provide a technician to provide you with a home inspection to see if your home can support a "home charger" and provide a quote.

If the owners of electric vehicles are being sold the car on the premise that all you need a standard domestic socket (despite the UK ring circuit being unsuitable for this type of load) you might find it hardwork selling charging points.

Of course it is possible that the dealers of these electric cars have now been educated about the New CoP and the imminent arrival of a new amendment to the wiring regs to include a new section on vehicle charging points; and are now informing their customers they have to incur additional expense and get a dedicated charging point installed - but I doubt it.

Well you know me Andy - all learning is good learning.

Only you can decide if subbing to them gives you the margin you need to make the business work but I would consider that those people installing PV and buying electric cars have an eco ideal and what could be better than charging the car from your PV and using the output rather than virtually giving it away for export tariff

Good luck if you go for it - but see mikes comments as well

Regards

OMS

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Mike is getting at the point I made, the car dealer and manufacturers are getting to potential customers first and if you want that work you will end up subbing off the big boys.

Nothing wrong with subbing, so long as it is for a good firm.

Ideally customers will just phone you direct for a quote.

I doubt a installers course is required, a copy of the book is probably required reading in lieu of the proposed amendment to the regulations, as Mike said it is a posh outdoor socket. Alan will probably know what I am talking about, when you head down south out of Peel you may see a car parked on the side of the road with a lead coming out over the garden wall, to most people a electric vehicle is just a appliance to be plugged in like a lawn mower, so a dedicated socket may be a hard sell. Ploughcroft indicate the cost for a WallPod prices start from £399 + vat, at those prices there should be a margin for a one man band.

The socket would also be useful for cleaning the car and mowing the lawn etc.

I might have a punt on the book and leave it at that, though I still have the draft on this laptop courtesy of this forum, I was supposed to read it and review it something else I didn't get around to doing.

Andy

Found the other post http://www.theiet.org/forums/f...tid=205&threadid=46607

Here's a challenge then, lets compile a list of the advantages of having a dedicated charger point that electricians can use to sell the product to potential clients.

I'll start with it will be positioned to make charging convenient.

Andy

Evening all,
I have recently been fact finding this topic after looking for cars for my wife.
The only dealership in Manchester who sells the Vauxhall ampera said they tell customers thet British Gas are the instalers they need to contact, but there may be a warrenty issue if you use the device supplied by BG and not Vauxhall who ever installs it.
even so it might be a good little niche market this.
Regards
Antric

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/vehi...as-home-charging.html

OK, now we need to know about:

"Better still, discounts of up to 75 per cent are available on some charging solutions to people living in areas designated as 'Plugged-in Places' by the government, making the cost of a dedicated circuit as little as £283, or a professionally installed home charging unit as little as £390."

Andy

To quote
'Installation comes with a three year warranty on parts and labour and three-year Home Electrical Care tm for the whole house. '
Looks like the're punting for future extra's.
Good idea really, I might start offering a four-year Home Electrical Care.

I wonder if it'll have any effect on the acceptability of PME - I've only seen the DPC of the CoP, but they did seemed wary of exporting PME earth to cars under charge and the proximity of PME bonded metalwork (outside taps for example) - not sure if that made it through to the final version. I can see the sense in treating the setup like a caravan.
- Andy.

I guess the whole thing is tied up and we are not going to get a look in as independent electricians.

If you look at the website http://www.dft.gov.uk/topics/s...lev/plug-in-car-grant

you will note: "If you are looking to use the Plug-in Car Grant to purchase an eligible car, the good news is that there are no application forms to fill in. The dealership or vendor you are buying your car from will complete all the paperwork on your behalf as you buy the car; and the amount of your grant will be automatically deducted from the price of your car at the point of purchase"

So the dealership has control of the whole grant process and if this includes the installation of the charging point presumably it will all be tied up together with installation by who ever has done the deal with the manufacturer, unless the local dealership has some lee way to arrange installation themselves, some how I doubt it.

I guess the only thing then is if the customer requires a second charging point at another premises, not that likely though is it.

So not something to get excited about as Mike has already noted.

Andy