Does anyone know when the City and Guilds Inspection and Testing Exams will cease in their present form?

If you fail the December exam, will you be able to get a resit in the New Year?

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keithredpath

The 2391 will effectively be gone by Christmas (December 1st really). Resits are going on until well into the new year for the 2391, more if there is the demand for them. The 2392 will change very little from what it currently is, I suspect just updated to the new amendment mainly.

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http://www.electricalqualifications.co.uk
http://www.electricalexams.co.uk
http://www.electricalrevision.co.uk

what is the 2391 changing to?

I should imagine a watered down version,to increase pass rates

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Regards

Dave(not Cockburn)

There is some information on the C&G website, but no course hand books yet.
http://www.cityandguilds.com/d.../FAQs_v1_July_2011.pdf

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http://www.niceic.biz

Keith

What do you think about this? I think don't fix what's not broken.

I spoke to a lecturer at college yesterday, and he said they are not getting rid of the 2391, just adding on some more exams to it. I am starting my 2391 this week.

Take a look at the link above from KJ, On page 6 it says that the 2391 is been replaced by these:

o 2394 Level 3 Initial Verification of Electrical Installations
o 2395 Level 3 Periodic Inspection, Testing and Reporting of Electrical Installations
o 2396 Level 4 Design of Electrical Installations

How long will the 2391 qualifications remain?
2391 closes for new registrations on 31 December 2011, with a final certification date of 31 December 2013. Dated entry examinations will continue to be available until the summer of 2012, exact final date of the 301 and 303 examinations to be confirmed.

Only out of interest, what happened to 2357. Therefore, you need two C & G 1 to verify and another one to carry out condition reports

http://www.electricalqualifications.co.uk/cg2357.php

What about the third EIC that is required to be handed to the client where applicable, which one covers that.
To complement the above statement please
See September 2011 Building Services & Environmental Engineer" A guide to Electrical Testing"
Page 30 to 31 (You need to expand to 100% to read).

http://content.yudu.com/A1tnwv...ry.php%2Faid%2F2554%2F


http://www.inbalance-energy.co...0of%20PV%20Systems.pdf

getting rid of the 2391 and splitting it into 2 courses sounds a bit of a con to me. Imagine how much this is going cost to do 2 courses?

Well I am glad I done the 2391 years ago because I certainly would not be doing the new set up its a con.

Well I am glad I done the 2391 years ago
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Same here Ant,

Dave.

Where did you glean this bit of incorrect information? Sources please?

It is on a FAQ about the 17th amendment and its impact on electrical courses published by the City and Guilds here (page 6): http://www.cityandguilds.com/d...FAQs_v1_July_2011.pdf

What makes you think it's incorrect, do you have other sources telling you differently?

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http://www.electricalqualifications.co.uk
http://www.electricalexams.co.uk
http://www.electricalrevision.co.uk

It's on the C+G website here: http://www.cityandguilds.com/d.../FAQs_v1_July_2011.pdf page 6

ant1uk and nsambrook:

There is no mention of splitting 2391 into two separate courses. The proposed 2394 2395 & 2396 equate to the current 2392, 2391-10 & 2391-20.

by all accounts the 2392 at level 2 is staying.

2391 is being split in 2

so

2394 is initial verification Level 3
2395 is periodics level 3

then 2396 will be design now at level 4

Whats the difference between the 2391-10 and the 2391-20???.

briggsy

All I am saying is that the current 2391 covers all types of installation (New or periodic) the new set of courses seem to split them.

prtadko gets what I'm saying

one is actual testing the other is design.

o 2394 Level 3 Initial Verification of Electrical Installations
o 2395 Level 3 Periodic Inspection, Testing and Reporting of Electrical Installations
o 2396 Level 4 Design of Electrical Installations


To continue: Will the above qualifications effect Scotland but surly it will have an effect on the defined scope scheme where the plumber, wall tile, or kitchen fitter will need the 2394 Level 3 in order to issue an EIC for his electrical work.



Level A: The requirements for an enterprise the scope of whose work includes the design, installation, inspection and testing of electrical installation work that is associated with dwellings and is intended to operate at low or extra-low voltage - also known as full scope; and

Level B: The requirements for an enterprise the scope of whose work is limited to the design, installation, inspection and testing of defined electrical installation work that is associated with dwellings, is intended to operate at low or extra-low voltage, and is undertaken in connection with, or ancillary to some other work - also known as defined scope.