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Topic Summary: How difficult to arrange ?
Created On: 18 January 2011 07:20 PM
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 22 February 2011 02:11 PM
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ant1uk

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It's pretty scary that the smart meters can be controlled remotely
 22 February 2011 02:33 PM
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Angram

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The DNO customer would probably get a telephone call within minutes of the fuse being pulled.

I suggest this because I called the outage line the other night (A thatched cottage burnt down near an 11kV line) and the voice system read out and asked for confirmation of my postcode against my phone number. So the databases are there and cross referenced already.

Big Brother is alive and well.
 22 February 2011 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by: ant1uk

It's pretty scary that the smart meters can be controlled remotely


Nothing scarey about it Ant - I've got a remote control on my TV and that doesn't frighten me none

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 22 February 2011 03:03 PM
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ant1uk

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everything is becoming controlled by software these days. This has plenty benefits to the supplier they can remote disconnect you if you pay your bill a few days late. Also what happens if their computer breaks down and everyone get disconnected by accident. It may be called moving on with the times by it does have it faults too.

I also see a positive as well they could remotely isolate if you need isolation but I would also question how safe this would be as its not securely done manually and could become energised at any time.
 22 February 2011 04:54 PM
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everything is becoming controlled by software these days.


Thats right, you use it every day, distributors, cash points, internet etc; etc; etc; and it is very successful.

As I pointed out earlier its not about big bruv or any conspiracy theory but its about self sufficiency and efficiency, the world is a rapidly changing place, people are not interested in wars and how many tanks can their dictators buy for a deal of 10p a barrel for oil, they want a good sandwich and a telly to watch and a computer to play on, the west has suppressed the middle east and places like africa for too long and they are now losing their grip, people just want to compete on the world market and enjoy the material things in life that we take for granted, aint nothing wrong with that, the problem being is that we will now have to compete on an equal basis and sustainability and efficiency is one of the keys to survival.

The problem is we have never been very good at this as we used to steal all the stuff from the colonies we occupied.

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 22 February 2011 05:16 PM
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LoL -what's this RnR - you can't be a Son of Empire and have a conscience as well

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 22 February 2011 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by: OMS

LoL -what's this RnR - you can't be a Son of Empire and have a conscience as well

OMS


I think the time has come to hang up our swords.

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 22 February 2011 05:34 PM
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Not quite I fear - it's all going to get a bit excitable in North Africa and beyond over the summer so a few opportunities out there to make a few dirty bucks from both sides yet

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 22 February 2011 05:40 PM
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The old BICC cables used to benefit from "commonwealth preference" for some time after independence in the 1960s. It meant that we had time to adjust to the high "market" prices for copper.

The countries became free. Did the citizens? Who was it that fled with their country's gold bars recently?
 22 February 2011 05:50 PM
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I expect the Terracotta Warriors will be there long before we are, everybody loves a 'Takeaway'.

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 22 February 2011 06:40 PM
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Thought for a moment I'd slipped up and was on the Socialists Worker's Party website for a minute, all this talk of nationalisation.
 22 February 2011 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by: normcall

But it's the private companies that are supposed to pay, not the taxpayer. They knew the whole point of privatisation was to move the risk from taxpayer to private company, this doesn't seem to be the case in any of the privatised outfits including the electrical industry.


Totally agree there Norman, hate to think what's to happen after these idiots have finished in power.
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kaichung

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Was it normal to work on live service cable feeds back in the old days - say 1970's or before, or did they pull the substation fuse or pavement link box connectors first??
 27 December 2012 08:37 PM
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"Was it normal to work on live service cable feeds back in the old days - say 1970's or before, or did they pull the substation fuse or pavement link box connectors first??"

As far as I'm aware, as long as the LV cable isn't damaged, they will still work on it live.....

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 27 December 2012 09:32 PM
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It is still routine practice for DNOs to work on LV Mains and Services live. WIth faults, it is a risk assessed method to determine what can be carried out with the network energised, and at what point it gets switched off. Under some scenarios, the "switching off" maybe using a "live cut" on the Main, which may be less disruptive than removing a fuse further back in the network.

If there is a risk to life and / or property, then it would be normal to isolate at the quickest / easiest point, while establishing isolation closer to the problem.

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 28 December 2012 03:39 AM
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johno12345

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Some time ago, I was in a similar situation with my service head.

it had a fused neutral, rewireable, plastic though, supplied with PILC so pitch filled head.

it also had eco 7 with the associated mess of wiring and noisy timeclock and contactor.

I phoned the supplier and eventually got someone who said they didnt install isolators full stop, and the fused neutral was good because its fused twice as much. If I wanted to fir an isolator, they told me to cut the seals and pull the fuses if i thought it looked ok to do so.

some time later, i had the eco 7 removed and a single rate electronic meter fitted, and the head replaced when i told them it was leaking pitch, they did it live and fitted a 100a fuse

nobody commented on the missing seals
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