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Created On: 20 April 2010 09:35 PM
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 22 April 2010 10:02 PM
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Ampman

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What do people use for external wiring then ?


I dont like the look of plastic conduit on external brick work it tends to bend & discolour with age & sun damage also .

S.W.A is ok but looks crap clipped to a fitting . On a domestic property ,

Looks ok on industrial when made off in a box and flex to fitting ,

When i first moved into my house 11 years ago i installed some lights on my drive way using twin & earth clipped to brickwork

About 4 mts between fittings

Sun shines on the cable all day when the sun is out

Cable looks as good as the day it was installed .

Where is the reg that states we not allowed to use twin & earth externally . ?
 26 April 2010 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by: spinlondon

Does anyone actually know whether T&E deteriorates when exposed to UV radiation?


The reason why I dont fit uPVC windows is once they go off colour thats it... you cant do anything about the uPVC... I always go for ali windows...

I thought that you were allowed to fit external lights to the main wall of a house without part P approval?!

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 26 April 2010 10:35 AM
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Yes you can Tom, provided the cable comes through the wall and straight into the fitting, (unless fed from a special location, kitchen etc)
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 26 April 2010 02:29 PM
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Hi Dave... thought so... as long as no new circuit as well... etc...

Cheers...

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 26 April 2010 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by: daveparry1

Yes you can Tom, provided the cable comes through the wall and straight into the fitting, (unless fed from a special location, kitchen etc)

Dave.


Steady on Dave - you'll have the cavity police firing up the Quattro and coming round to give you a good slapping with that sort of talk

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 01 May 2010 05:54 PM
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GJH

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I thought it was a joke, it wasnt the best job,but to accuse him of installing a dangerous installation was un called for.

Its ok accusing him of not being part P aswell but was it deadly?

At least he fused it down, the so called part P expert didnt check the fuse size and didnt check for bonding, RCD etc.

They should have highlighted that in more detail to make the viewers realise what is needed to comply.
 02 May 2010 10:35 AM
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TeesdaleSpark

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Guidance Note 1 says the following on the subject of T&E (thermoplastic or thermosetting):

Uses:
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(ii) on exterior surface walls and the like.
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(ii) protection from direct sunlight may be necessary. Black sheath colour is better for cables in sunlight.
 02 May 2010 10:37 AM
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TeesdaleSpark

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I didn't see the program but as we are all aware there is never a shortage of electricians when it comes to slagging off their colleagues work.
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