hey dg66

Your mates doing 6 or 7 domestic PIR's a day? Thats Crazy!

A mate of mine won a contract with a big outfit with hundreds of houses that required him to do at least 4 a day to make a decent days pay. He hoped to get the remedials but never did - a handy man did the repairs (Including fuse box upgrades etc). Then another spark just signed the lot off! My mate said never again, he just knew he wasn't been thorough and found it hard to sleep at night!

But money talks...and everyone's got their price! I'd sooner give up the trade than lower my standards though.

hey dg66

Your mates doing 6 or 7 domestic PIR's a day? Thats Crazy!

A mate of mine won a contract with a big outfit with hundreds of houses that required him to do at least 4 a day to make a decent days pay. He hoped to get the remedials but never did - a handy man did the repairs (Including fuse box upgrades etc). Then another spark just signed the lot off! My mate said never again, he just knew he wasn't been thorough and found it hard to sleep at night!

But money talks...and everyone's got their price! I'd sooner give up the trade than lower my standards though.

Hi everyone Im new to the forum.

The problem seems to be that the engineers doing these ''80'' circuits a day feel that because it is only a PIR, it is only valid from the time of inspection (Like an MOT) so if something did go wrong they can just say that it was fine on the day, no questions asked.

I completely disagree with this.

What do you all think?

Really, so someone dies in a reversed polarity incident, the police, the employer and HSE secure the scene and lo and behold the defense is that the circuit somehow managed to change polarity just after the electrician (and I resist the use of the word engineer in this case) left the building.

Yeah right !!

Regards

OMS

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Failure is always an option

The defence of "It was all right when I tested it" did not work for an electrician at Snaresbrook Crown Court last year. All the prosecution had to prove was the person produced the cert. by way of trade, he did so because he advertised as a sparks and he took money (cash) for the job and this information of the cert. was false OR misleading, which it was. He was convicted after the jury had been out for 20mins and sentenced to 100 hours community sentence, £2000 costs and £150 compensation to the house holder. He resigned his membership from his "club" before they struck him off their nominal role.

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John Peckham

http://www.astutetechnicalservices.co.uk/

Hi John

Where can I get more info on the case you mentioned above?

Keith

PM me your email address.

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John Peckham

http://www.astutetechnicalservices.co.uk/

As someone who undertakes testing and inspection for a company - I think I can say we (testers) are between a rock and a hard place to say the least. Some bosses just want the test done as quickly as possible, and for new installs they definitely do not want any faults of diversions from the regs to be noted. And on periodics I have experienced similar where the boss has gone in on a low price.....in the hope he picks up the remedial works, and where the client just wants a certificate and has little or no intention of spending on the installation.

I recently did a Periodic on an industrial installation - even before getting the test gear out of the van - I told my boss that I could condem the installation just on a visual inspection, it was horrendous! I was told to continue and to begin testing, as we would get work out of it - but it was blatantly obvious they were not into maintaing their premisies.

Generally speaking, for me testing takes as long as it takes - I like to have peace of mind