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 11 April 2009 07:16 PM
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gettinthere

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Evening all, I have been asked by a friend to fit an intruder alarm. Because he is a friend I will probably be getting a crate of beer for doing the job, ha ho. Anyway I wondered if any of you have used one of these wireless systems and if so what type would you advise.

Thanks in advance.

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 11 April 2009 07:29 PM
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DOUGIE1000

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wired all the time

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 11 April 2009 07:54 PM
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gettinthere

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I know but it will take me all day and I wont get paid.

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 11 April 2009 08:01 PM
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jockspark

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i dont like them but they are very easy to install.
i think the most popular one is called
responce
just go to your local wholesaler
 11 April 2009 08:17 PM
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gettinthere

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Cheers jockspark they look alright.

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 11 April 2009 08:17 PM
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Jaymack

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The general consensus among the professional installers is that these systems are prone to false alarms: - failing batteries; and your local taxi service on a similar frequency etc., although they appear to becoming more reliable. These false alarms can lead to increased costs in callouts, during the initial warranty period for the professional installer.
You could of course, get the customer to buy a cheapie from B&Q etc. and just fit it, you could then claim for the costs in attendance for false alarms, if you had a horse called Trigger.

On the other hand, the capital cost is lower; but the ongoing maintenance costs are higher - replacement batteries in sensors; and they are easier to install for an existing property, or where exposed wiring is undesireable.
If I had to choose a wireless alarm, I would recommend the Scantronic 500r as it's Class 3 and suitable for connection to digicom. Other recommendations are Yale, ESP, Visionic and Infinite. I would also carefully word the warranty conditions.

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 11 April 2009 08:40 PM
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Phillron

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Until friday I had never fitted one
I wont bore you with the why I had to
I bought a Friedland ( £159)out from screwfix
I was very apprehensive about setting it up(my ablities for this type of thing started and ended with the invention of video recorders,still trying to work out where I go wrong )

I took my son along and he made it look so easy (which it probably is unless your old like me)

It operated on all 14 pirs, door contacts and pad with no problems whatsoever
There is a facility on there for jamming detection,but with this enabled it is possible for nuisance alarms triggered by stations which are on the same frequency

It states, without this enabled, same station frequencies cannot trigger it
At the moment I am satisfied,but obviously time alone will be the decider
There is download on screwfix to have a nose at, if you want full data
 13 April 2009 07:20 PM
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jengo22

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Infinite PRIME Wireless Alarm Kit they are great no problems installed lots of them. Also sell them a maintenance contract, change the batteries once a year and you will get no problems.
 13 April 2009 09:12 PM
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ess1uk

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speaking as a radio tech
i'd avoid wireless
i even have the house wired with CAT5 so i don't need a wireless LAN
leave wireless to the BBC !
 13 April 2009 11:23 PM
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TeesdaleSpark

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The relevant standard is BS EN 50131 which has superseded BS 6799. I would check that any wireless intruder alarm is made in accordance with the standard.
 15 April 2009 04:31 PM
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spark240

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I have an ESP wireless in my own house, put it in a few yeasr ago on trial, worked fine ever since, batteries last for ages.
 16 April 2009 06:47 AM
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normcall

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2 Cats and 3 dogs seem to work for me!

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 16 April 2009 07:28 AM
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micjamesq

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With all the wireless technology entering today's modern home all the ISM bands will soon be used up. It will soon get to the point where we will have to buy are own little piece of spectrum from Ofcom

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 16 April 2009 09:08 AM
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Fitted a Logisty system to parents house five years ago changed batteries last year. No problems with false alarms and easy to install.

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 17 April 2009 06:40 PM
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ess1uk

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Originally posted by: micjamesq

With all the wireless technology entering today's modern home all the ISM bands will soon be used up. It will soon get to the point where we will have to buy are own little piece of spectrum from Ofcom



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exactly
when i get other kids on my baby monitor i know the spectrum is full
 17 April 2009 07:38 PM
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Jez937

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Wireless technology has come a long way and is increasing every day... (Especially with fire alarms) I've fit a couple of those response alarms and never had a problem but I do question the quality. Personally I dont like the keypad design. Infinite seem to do good stuff and I like the keypad design (which matters to me) because its usually in the hall way and it aloso has the X10 capabillity so you can turn lights on and off (and heating) by remote. The best remote system I have come accross is by FM Electronics the equipment just ouzed quality and battery life was a garaunteeed minimum of 5 years.

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 12 May 2010 05:18 PM
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I recently did a job for a large country house, where the client insisted from the outset they didn't want an intruder alarm. Towards the end of the job, there was a break in, and the client decided now was the time to backtrack and get an alarm fitted. Since everything was now plastered, chipboard floors all glued and finished, decorators making good progress, wireless was the only sensible option.

The alarm also had to be monitored, so I had to hand over the reigns to a certified company, who fitted a Visonic system. I was very impressed with the system, and will certainly consider it for future use. Particularly if you can sell the battery change/maintenance contract, there shouldn't really be any problem.

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 12 May 2010 06:31 PM
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Dale76uk

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Try Risco group Manchester and also Nottingham. They do a gardtec 595 wireless kit with 6 devices for £200 maximum of 40 zones. Amazing kit with speech dialer!
 12 May 2010 08:53 PM
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scantronic i ON 16.

Brilliant piece of kit, grade 2 if i seem to remember

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 13 May 2010 07:25 AM
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For the time it takes I'd always go for a hard wired system... I fitted a cheapy Wickes one in my house some 8 years ago... really brilliant! No question... its still going now... £75 I paid... didnt believe it would work ..... but these cheap systems seem to be grrrreat!

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