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Created On: 18 January 2009 11:06 AM
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 18 January 2009 11:06 AM
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MrAmps

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Morning all,

I have a customer that has bought a disused petrol station. In the future he wants to reinstate it for fuel selling.

I have loked at the electrical installation and it is 'Dated' to say the least!

Can anyone point me in the right direction for the regulations and qualifications required for filling stations as I am going to tell him I cannot carry out the work as specialist qualifications are required, and I want to be armed with the relevant information so he can check with the next spark who comes along!

Am I right in saying that I cannot carry out any work on the premises at all?

I believe a previous spark has allready carried out some loop tests !!!

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 18 January 2009 11:39 AM
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daveparry1

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I'm not certain without checking the regs but I believe the special areas only include the forecourt and fuel control areas, not office or shop areas, i'd be happy to be corrected on this if necessary as I do some work at the home of a petrol station owner and he's often asking me to do work at the station,
regards,
Dave.
 18 January 2009 11:48 AM
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thedan71

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MrAmps, the company I work carry out alot of works on petrol stations and the "specialist" works that need to be carried out include the hazadous areas. Quite often I have carried out works where other electricians carry out works in the shop, but word of advice - from experience, the same contractor who is doing the petrol install should be doing the shop aswell. Petrol station installs are very complex and poor designs inside the shop can have a great affect on a good installation.
 18 January 2009 11:49 AM
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MrAmps

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Thanks Dave.

Im a bit loathed to carry out any work at all really as Im sure there may be issues with PL insurance as well?

Perhaps a call to the NICEIC helpline on monday - If I can get through

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 18 January 2009 12:07 PM
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thedan71

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Why don't you ring the petroleum officer for the area and he should have a list of contractors that can do the hazardous works.
 18 January 2009 01:13 PM
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Antistatic

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Hi Mr Amps

If you want to get involved in this work then start by getting hold of a copy of "Design, Construction, Modification, Maintenance and Decommissioning of Petrol Filling Stations" 2nd Edition. Otherwise known as "The Blue Book". This will tell you exactly what you need to know. Not cheap though, £120 new or there are some on Amazon for about £79.

If you look on the NIC website I think there is a section that you can search for A/C with extension to work in the different hazardous areas. Not that the all contractors working in hazardous areas belong to that particular club of course, myself included.

Then there are the qualifications. Comp'Ex'
Unit EX07, Preparation & Installation of electrical installations at Petrol Filling Stations.
Unit EX08, Inspection, test and maintenance of electrical installations at Petrol Filling Stations

These will set you back 1K to 2K

Also as you say, check your insurance. A lot of insurers don't want to know you if you work in hazardous areas. Others may want you to have the Comp 'Ex' qualifications. You can be sure that it will be more expensive though. Mine is.

I don't do much in the way of installation work now but still carry out maintenance and I&T for licence renewals.

Regards
Nigel
 18 January 2009 01:53 PM
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intrinsic4225B

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The matter of electrical installation at petrol filling stations is a matter which comes up regularly here on the forums.

If you do a search of the archives, you will find a raft of other good information, in addition to that given above!
 18 January 2009 07:24 PM
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MrAmps

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Many thanks all.
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