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 20 March 2017 06:02 PM
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daveparry1

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Hi all,
Does anyone know whether there's such a thing as an IP rated flex outlet plate out there? The situation is a bathroom heated towel rail. I have put a fused spur outside the bathroom. When I do these I usually put the spur on the other side of the wall and then just run the flex from the heater straight through the wall into the fcu, that's not possible in this case through. The plate won't be in zone 1 btw.
 20 March 2017 06:13 PM
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JZN

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I've never come across one. If it's not in Zone 1 then you can just use a normal one? If you are worried about it then make sure it's got the flex out at the bottom not a hole in the front. Put a small bead of silicone sealant around the plate once you've fixed it.

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 20 March 2017 06:21 PM
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daveparry1

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Thanks John, the outlet will be at the bottom. Funny how these things crop up isn't it, just when we think we've come across most situations something else turns up just to cause a bit of uncertainty! Good idea about the silicone, I will do that, thanks again.
 20 March 2017 06:49 PM
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mapj1

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I have also seen nylon 'stuffing glands'

emerging from blanking plates or out through the side of plastic surface boxes - probably a bit too industrial for a bathroom, but may be an alternative in some wetter cases.

A fully enclosed spur


is OTT, but probably the right sort of thing in a stable..

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 20 March 2017 08:37 PM
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Grobbyman

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I have an IP rated timer module to fit Thursday or Friday.
Think it is German.
If you can wait till then I'll let you know the makers name.
 20 March 2017 08:43 PM
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daveparry1

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Thanks Grobbyman, i'm not going back to finish the job until next week as they're having the tiling done.
 20 March 2017 08:53 PM
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Grobbyman

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Ok don't let me forget.

At my age it's happening a lot more often than I'd like.
 23 March 2017 07:17 PM
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Grobbyman

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Dave,
Fitted today IPX5 thermal control plate for towel rail elements.
Tesla TCP200.
Tesla UK Ltd
 23 March 2017 07:22 PM
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Grobbyman

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So I was wrong about it being German.
Looks ok when fitted too.
Hope this helps.
 23 March 2017 07:43 PM
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daveparry1

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Thanks Grobbyman, i'll look into that.
 23 March 2017 08:19 PM
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mapj1

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one of these

very posh - but how do you get the cable out?

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 23 March 2017 08:33 PM
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Grumpy

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Yikes Dave, are you sure you're not over thinking this? My standard o p is like you said, fcu outside bathroom but with cable outlet plate adjacent to towell rad. Must admit I turn my nose up at installations where the towel rad flex disappears into the wall.
What could possibly go wrong . . . ?

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 23 March 2017 08:40 PM
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mapj1

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well you could pass the cable through a blanking plate for cosmetic effect but continue the flex unbroken right though to the other side of the wall and if needed into mintrunk or conduit and then into the back of another box for connection - reducing the plate in the bathroom to nothing more than a rather large and showy square washer, with no live parts exposed behind it.

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 23 March 2017 08:53 PM
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Grumpy

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Indeed you could Mike. But why would you? What would you do with your enormous flex disappearing into the void when you wanted to remove the towel rad? Say, if the element failed.

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 23 March 2017 09:17 PM
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mapj1

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I was rather assuming it was the kind of heater where the flex is wired into terminals - so I'd undo it at the heater and leave the bare end hanging out the wall. Isolated of course. And possibly in choc block or tape if it was not going to be connected to a new one same day.
If the flex is captive to the heater, then I agree a near joint is unavoidable.
Actually when I moved into this house we had a funny one like that - the flex from the heater vanished into a lump in the grout where a corner of one of the tiles had been nipped off. On the other side in a bedroom, the cable was then clipped for few feet along the skirting and plugged into a socket behind a cupboard. Not as bad as the electrics to the shed, which involved a length of the old style hoover flex, rubber covered 2 core, with the string in it to pack the cores, run in screwed steel conduit about a finger depth into the flower bed. Except it had rusted out in several places, and the rubber on the wires had started to perish.
Previous occupant had done TV aerial installs for a living at one point apparently, real confidence inspiring stuff.

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 23 March 2017 09:25 PM
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dustydazzler

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Did work fir a house builder who insisted no flex plate in the bathroom for cosmetic reasons. Plumbers fed the flex through the stud work to the other side and we did our best to fish into position .
It must be a pain to change the pre-wired elements mind
 23 March 2017 09:48 PM
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Grobbyman

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Yes one of those.
Has a bottom cable entry.
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