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 08 September 2011 07:56 AM
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adrianhill

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I want to retrain as an Electrician for Part P, 17th Edition and I'm looking at courses. I've been working in the electronics field for 20+ years. New Career Skills (www.newcareerskills.co.uk) looks interesting. Has anyone done this course or has anyone got other suggestions?

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 08 September 2011 07:33 PM
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nsambrook

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Personally, I wouldn't be inclined to touch any qualification other than the C&G2357, even if at this point you can only do the knowledge unit elements of the course until you can get some sort of employment in the industry. I keep hearing from people who have Part P (EAL Domestic Installer Level 2), 17th Edition, PAT test (C&G2377), Inspection and Test (C&G2392) and some form of basic electrics course all at the cost of a small hatchback and no one will touch them.

You can ask yourself the main reasons why they can't get employment doing these courses but here're some to get you going:

1) No real world experience
2) In a recession when works tight and employees a plenty, would you pick a time served apprentice/mature trainee who has done at least 3-4 years at college whilst working on the tools or someone who has done a 4 week course at a training provider?
3) No ECS Gold card

I am sorry if that comes across negative towards the providers that offer these courses, and of course, individually, each course has its merit (even the EAL one that was originally designed for "allied" trades but was hijacked by the get qualified quick crew).

Having said all of that, I would be very happy to also hear about credible stories from people who have taken these courses, it would enable me to be a bit more accurate with my own work.

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http://www.electricalqualifications.co.uk
http://www.electricalexams.co.uk
http://www.electricalrevision.co.uk
 09 September 2011 06:46 AM
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adrianhill

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Thanks for that.

I spoke to a guy who has done the course (New Career Skills) He agrees that there's no substitute for experience on the tools but wasn't critical of the course.
I do need the Part P, 17th Edition etc and could work as an electricians mate to make up for lost time.

The New Career Skill course also includes Photovoltaic Installers course which seems to be a good way forward.

I'm going to visit the New Career Skills training place next week and speak to the 'experienced, real world' trainers.

There is no doubt, I've got to find new ways of making money. A total career change, as you say, would probably not work. If I get LX qualifications, I would be extending my experiences.
 09 September 2011 07:12 AM
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nsambrook

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The real trick is to work as an electricians mate while doing the C&G2357; fully recognised by the JIB and automatic Qualified Supervisor status if you want to start up yourself.

It is tough though and I know a lot of training providers personally and they are excellent trainers, no question about that, but some of these places are asking northwards of £6000 for something that leaves you only marginally more qualified than when you went in. Some of them though are offering the better routes for the same money, I think this is the better way to go personally.

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http://www.electricalqualifications.co.uk
http://www.electricalexams.co.uk
http://www.electricalrevision.co.uk
 09 September 2011 08:35 AM
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adrianhill

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This looks very interesting and thanks.

Does the 2357 cover 17th edition and Part P accreditaion. I've looked at the websites but can't find the answers.

I'm presuming I'll need these two to practice as an LX
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