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Topic Title: What makes you a spark?
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Created On: 21 April 2010 05:01 PM
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 21 April 2010 05:01 PM
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Hi guys lookin for ppls opinions on this subject.


I personally dont have one but never have problems getting jobs as I have done the ECS H&S card and I have NVQ3 17th ed and 2391

But I was having a chat with some of the guys on site today and they think if you dont have one then ur not a proper spark.

Just curious how many guys on here have gold cards and how many just dont care!!!

sory for the rant but they ***** me off!
 21 April 2010 09:53 PM
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There are rumours that a license scheme will be introduced within 5 years, I suspect that "shoud" clear up the discrepancies.

At the moment, the only real thing in question would be competency. Having the card goes some way to proving that but is not necessarily a cast iron guarantee.

I have worked with many guys over the years without the card and many with. Some without make those with look like rank amateurs and vice versa; to claim that someone can't be an electrician without the card is probably unfair in my opinion. The best guy I ever worked with, fast, neat, knowledgeable with a natural eye and flair for the business has never had a card and couldn't care for the JIB. He has also earned more money than most. Another guy I worked with was ex-Navy and could do complex control systems whilst supping tea and doing the Guardian crossword. He was a subby and didn't have a card either. Whilst an apprentice, I worked on site with a guy who managed the stores (because of his incompetence) who was a card holder and one of the lads I done my apprenticeship with now works for a wholesaler as a delivery driver.

 22 April 2010 10:08 AM
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Some good points there nsambrook.

There can be a very big difference between those who are at the top end of the class and those who are at the lower end when it comes to competence and quality. Competence is also about attitude and behaviour and obviously yours are good and the other guys are not....for electrical. Also the problem with these cards is that they are easily copied and most are never properly checked.


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