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 10 January 2015 07:42 AM
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Jaymack

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Originally posted by: normcall
I've yet to find out how you actually cancel Sky.

I'd read about this before cancelling in 2010. The call centre indignant, loud reply when I called to cancel: - "You want to cancel SKY?" with lot's of laughter in the background - barstewards! I did subsequently buy "a no subscription card" from them for £10, allowing channels such as True Movies, and other useful ones not on the other freebie services.

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 10 January 2015 07:48 AM
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dickllewellyn

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This is very interesting. Networking is something that my knowledge is badly lacking in. I'm quite happy buying gizmos and plugging them into each other, but I think i really need to learn a bit more about setting it all up and configuring it. Is there a good course to go on, or a good book to read?

I'm loving those network names. I've always found formulae make good passwords as well as they often contain letters, numbers, and symbols.

As for cancelling Sky, I just phone and threaten to every year and see how much of a discount I can get. I only got Sky TV because they offered it gratis for a year if I kept the broadband and moved the phone line over!

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 10 January 2015 08:49 AM
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andardry

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I had similar problems, started a few months ago, the internet got so slow it was almost unusable. I couldn't understand it because other computers in the house didn't have the problem. I scanned for malware etc, emptied temp files etc. eventually I upgraded the memory and suddenly the internet was faster than ever! How much have you got?

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 10 January 2015 10:29 AM
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Zs

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4GB installed RAM

it's just taken me half an hour to get onto Google ( my home page for the internet) but the internet connection is good.

'Waiting for Google' and I timed-out whilst trying to check email.

I think that the traffic management at Virgin slows you down on a rolling 24 hour basis, or similar but nowhere can I find information on whether that has happened. Disgruntled Virgin Media forum members though.

That test of yours is good Norm, shows 33.0 mbps on the download....that's good isn't it?

I fear a visit from 'computer man' may be necessary. I've been avoiding it because he fancies me and it makes me a bit cringy.

What I will do though is a big back-up just in case and then have a look at that site I found yesterday. I'll let you know if it has hidden demons in it. I'll do that after saving the universe down at the cow farm TT though - no earth rods and two core armour with glands all dangling loose, main switch wired with the line bypassing it....that's another story though. Worry not, I did a cow-girl lash up when I found it but it's a rubbish lash-up and I must get back there with my hammer. More important than Frank watching Miss Marple.

Thank you, Like dick, this is not something I've ever bothered to understand.

Oh, it just started raining sideways. Deep joy.

I'll get me wellies...
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 10 January 2015 10:37 AM
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OMS

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Oh, it just started raining sideways. Deep joy.


Think of it as pure liquid sunshine - enjoy

It'll be good training for Shetland !!

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 10 January 2015 11:39 AM
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normcall

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Looks like speed as about right and Virgin are just overloading their system.
www.thinkbroadband.co.uk, register and log in. Useful forum and useful speed tester as you can see the graph to judge if it's them or you.
If you, then that's the time to ask on the forum there. Unbiased and very knowledgeable!

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 10 January 2015 04:43 PM
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Jaymack

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Originally posted by: Zs
Oh, it just started raining sideways. Deep joy.

Try Capetown with the Cape Doctor and horizontal hail, it's like stinging shotblast but gives colour to the complexion.

I've had 3 calls to reposition satellite dishes in this area between Aberdeen and Inverness - No way Jose!

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 10 January 2015 05:05 PM
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sparkingchip

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Hi Ze. Remember meeting Steve who was with me at the Elex show with me several years ago?

I replaced his garden wiring installation some time ago with a nice SWA cable to the shed at the bottom of his garden.

In the shed he has one of these and one of These plugged into it


Just think how many more neighbours you could include on your network as well as having wired and wireless Internet at the bottom of the garden yourself if you did the same.

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 10 January 2015 05:11 PM
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dickllewellyn

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I'll have to have a word with my brother and see what he used to do. He had a public network operating from his little local authority flat in deepest darkest basingstoke and used to sell wifi by the minute on a pay as you go basis via PayPal. He could set different rates for different people I believe. He didn't have many customers, but there were a couple of regulars who lived in the back of transit vans in the communal car park from time to time.

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 10 January 2015 05:29 PM
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SMLaurenson

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I'm off to Shetland with a guitar and an A4 pad.


Well if you need any local knowledge give us a shout.


I've had 3 calls to reposition satellite dishes in this area between Aberdeen and Inverness - No way Jose!


I've had a call to replace an anemometer on a wind turbine tomorrow which didn't survive last nights gales. Only if the rain is no longer sideways! The forecast is moderating at least.

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 10 January 2015 05:44 PM
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dp11

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To monitor your network connection I use this website. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/monitors.html
You need to setup an account. It then constantly checks the delay (ping time) to you router. Ping times will increase when either you are using the internet or when virgin run out of capacity. On virgin you will need to login into you router and enable remote pings instructions are on the website.

If you are using WiFi and have a smart phone the app WiFi analyser is great at look at your WiFi signal strength and all your neighbours WiFi signal strengths too.

My box virgin box every few months needs turning off and on again.

Pop over to the virgin forum for more technical info and thinks to check. You can ask one of the virgin staff to remotely check your connection and if there are any network issues in your area. It does take them a few days so soon you ask sooner they will check. The forum is slower but much better than the call centre.
 10 January 2015 05:53 PM
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TimJWatts

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Zs - if your were using Mac or Linux, "iftop" would give you a graph in real time of data usage by IP, assuming your WiFi does not have AP isolation (clients can't see each other).

ie - see how much he's pulling for a bit. I'll leave the ethics up to you - although it is *your* connection.

Sorry - I'm having trouble finding an iftop equivalent for Windows - there must be one because it's possible - but my GoogleFu is weak today.
 10 January 2015 06:49 PM
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andardry

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Sorry - I'm having trouble finding an iftop equivalent for Windows - there must be one because it's possible - but my GoogleFu is weak today.
I believe it's called ntop, never tried it though....ALSO have you cleared your internet history? Don't know what browser you use but Chrome stores all history for 90 days unless you manually delete it.(Which is why I won't use chrome, or any other browser that doesn't allow deletion on exit) But I can't see your neighbour slowing down a 30M connection, We can be streaming films to 2 tvs/computers and still have good internet speeds

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 10 January 2015 11:18 PM
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slittle

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Just a thought for those who share their wifi with neighbours.

If the neighbour was to do something "suspect" such as downloading videos from certain websites or sending unpleasant messages via social media then the network provider (virgin for example) could be asked to confirm the IP address and hence customer details involved.

Next thing could be a knock on the door and a lot of explaining.

A local CCTV installer I know had this happen and it nearly ruined his business as all of his IT was seized including his smartphone. Turns out there was nothing on any of his devices (as he all hoped) and it's believed it was someone connecting to his BT-Wifi connection.


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 10 January 2015 11:25 PM
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Paradigm

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Absolutely Stu, I would be very wary of whom I would let use my wifi/internet. Music/film piracy for starters then all the other nefarious stuff.

The problem with the Internet is people think they are immune and safe and unless they are on TOR, everything is traceable.

Nick

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 10 January 2015 11:40 PM
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spinlondon

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If you are using Virgin, then you should be able to log into the modem, and check you connectivity and other logs.
This should list all the devices connected to the modem.
 11 January 2015 11:04 AM
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Jaymack

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Originally posted by: SMLaurenson
I've had a call to replace an anemometer on a wind turbine tomorrow which didn't survive last nights gales.
I was a frequent flyer in my younger days, flying between Inverness and Edinburgh in Loganair's Britten Norman Islander, it was an 8 seater. Hopefully they have more than one runway now to cater for cross winds, there was some scary landings in high winds. I can still see the single captain, with earphones wrapped round his peaked cap sitting in front as they do.

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 12 January 2015 04:10 PM
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AJJewsbury

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I don't suppose that Frank has been telling his neighbours about the clever wheeze that that nice Zs told him about - you just type in this magic password and you get free Wifi?
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 12 January 2015 06:22 PM
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Zs

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Thank you all so much for this help.

I found my way to the Virgin Forum. Now there's an experience to be missed if you can.

Anyway, they reckon that the download calculators (check me out with all the jargon ) have to be installed on each device and added up at the end of the month so that's a non-starter. However, I'll look at your links too because I bet you can do what we need.

The super hub log on, well, it's not working just yet....waiting for it to log me on! I've been watching a little blue wheel go round quite a bit lately. But it might provide some answers when I do get on. I'll call them for help after the gym.

But, what I have established from the forum pages is that I'm on a cracking package and all gizmo'd-up. I should be fine even if Frank is binge-watching iPlayer. Also, that he won't be watching at a good speed and will also be getting the little blue wheel. And... this might be a fault, particularly as it is getting on line that is the really slow bit and once I'm up and running it can be ok. waiting for google.com......waiting....Quite a bit of that on their pages.One poor chap who is unable to log on to WHUFC box office....Shame eh?

I'll let you know the outcome but in truth, I think computer man has to be booked to sort this out. You know when sometimes you are so not interested in the learning curve you've been pushed onto that you don't pay attention? That's me with Broadband I'm afraid. I read it and then I've already forgotten it.

But I will call them later. I'll update this for your information once it is all sorted out.

Off to row a pretend boat or walk up a pretend hill for an hour...

Zs
 31 January 2015 12:06 PM
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Zs

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For those of you with similar problems, an update..

Computer man has been here and I have been keeping an eye on the task manager functions while I work, or play with YouTube. The download speed itself doesn't seem to reduce dramatically.

But something called CPU usage is high and that's next on the list of things to attend to.

However, He commented that I was on something called a pop server and that they are rapidly becoming obsolete. Changed me to an iMap server. That has made a massive difference to downloading outlook emails and opening web pages. I'm no longer 'waiting for Google to respond' .

Until....he made a decision that I shouldn't be using Internet Explorer or outlook express and installed Mozilla Firefox as the web browser and Mozilla Thunderbird for the email. It takes me half an hour to download 18 emails and even longer to reply to them so he'll be coming back pronto. I can see from the web that they are supposed to be superb so that will rumble on. For now I've gone back to outlook for everything except the web site emails, which are only on Mozilla.

Ongoing, nice to have the laptop and the desktop talking to each other, which is an iMap capability.

But not download speed issues, so not Frank.

'It was working before you came round'?

What it does validate though, from our point of view, is the decision some time back not to do broadband as part of my remit. I will always run cables but I will leave the whole shebang for a specialist to set up. Same with central heating actually. Nice Zs is always the first call and too oft out at 9 in the evening just to tell the client that they need to call the gas fitter or the service provider.

Zs
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