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Created On: 05 March 2013 08:50 PM
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 11 March 2013 01:36 PM
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grrr is anyone here anygood with auto electrics?
 12 March 2013 09:38 PM
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OK so the plot now thinckens with the heap of cr@p the call the Vivaro van.
Removed the boost sol and replaced it with a simple bulb and checked the voltage and the supply now modulates, so a new sol on order. Maybe that will fix it

If anyone else has a problem with a Vivaro PM me and I'll tell you where to go;-) to be honest its been a quite interesting so far and a learning curve, but if this doesn't work I fear a can of petrol and a match will be the next step
 13 March 2013 07:49 AM
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Hope you get it sorted Dave.

What was the outcome from the AA? Do keep us posted.

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 14 March 2013 07:08 PM
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emailed the AA but never heard back, think it was a wind up.

Poxy heap of junk still isn't going though. New sol fitted tonight and now no fault light and I can rev the nuts off the van but it wont go anywhere, put it in reverse to try and move it off my drive and it just dies, couldn't try to go forward as my house is in the way, its too dark, cold and wet now to look anymore tonight. with any luck it could just now be the hand brake stuck on where its been standing so long but if anyone has any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

it really is looking like a match and a can of petrol if aint fixed by sunday
 14 March 2013 07:21 PM
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Back in the day Jasper Carrott done a sketch called "The Mole"....these vans will drive you just as mad LOL ( cause I got rid of mine), good luck
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 14 March 2013 11:17 PM
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Is the a vivaro forum ??!

Just a thought as the ford transit forum is a wealth of knowlage

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 15 March 2013 08:51 AM
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Thata what I was just about to say... the problems, though, with forums are they have the usual nutters and everyone has a different idea to the next person, ( ring any bells ? ), but its worth a try!

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 15 March 2013 05:48 PM
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i have a fiat ducatto on a 56 plate..

its been fantastic .. only tyres and a clutch, and i only service it when i feel like it, not been done for 2 years
 16 March 2013 02:36 PM
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lol, looked at the vivaro forum and,,,,,,,,,,,,, hours later I could of rebuilt the van if i'd taken norice of half the reasons and cures people had posted.

Pushed the van back off my drive yesterday and took it for a spin, it went like a racing car for the first few miles so stopped it and tried reverse and the same problen, engine just died. Restarted it and took it for a proper blast and clear out up the local by pass, got to 100 and then the "STOP" light, engine management light and service light came on dipped the clutch, the revs dropped off and the lights went out, decided it was time to head home and from then on everytime I went over 30 the lights came back on.

Its been peeing down with rain all day so, so far I haven't even bothered to go out and look at it today. But I now feel like I know something about the heap of junk so I'm not giving up just yet.

If anyone else has a Vivaro with the same sort of problems let me know.

btw I have just decided that I want to buy a good old escort van as a second (back up) van so if anyones got one for sale I'm interested
 16 March 2013 03:43 PM
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Dave, how far are you from welwyn in hertfordshire?

Excellent workshop there. They sorted my vivaro when even the vauxhall garage couldnt find it.

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 16 March 2013 03:56 PM
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mmm I'm in Suffolk, very near to Ipswich
 16 March 2013 04:55 PM
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I diagnosed a failed airbag ECU on my Audi, working outside on a tight gravel drive in the winter it took a good couple of weekends, plus £400 for the part, plus wrecking the seats steering wheel and dash if I got it wrong and the airbags deployed. I was going to leave it, sell it, burn it!! In the end i carried on, found the problem and got it done, maybe not the best use of my time, but satisfaction wise you can't beat thinking I did that myself any very few would have the mind and focus to carry on and succeed.

Good luck!!
 16 March 2013 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by: 505diff

I diagnosed a failed airbag ECU on my Audi, working outside on a tight gravel drive in the winter it took a good couple of weekends, plus £400 for the part, plus wrecking the seats steering wheel and dash if I got it wrong and the airbags deployed. I was going to leave it, sell it, burn it!! In the end i carried on, found the problem and got it done, maybe not the best use of my time, but satisfaction wise you can't beat thinking I did that myself any very few would have the mind and focus to carry on and succeed.



Good luck!!


A friend of mine owns a garage, and i wouldnt recommend working on the airbag yourself, as several mechanics have been killed in recent times when the airbag went off. Rather than an in your face impact, a side on impact when working on the car interior= broken neck.

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 17 March 2013 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by: peteTLM

Originally posted by: 505diff



I diagnosed a failed airbag ECU on my Audi, working outside on a tight gravel drive in the winter it took a good couple of weekends, plus £400 for the part, plus wrecking the seats steering wheel and dash if I got it wrong and the airbags deployed. I was going to leave it, sell it, burn it!! In the end i carried on, found the problem and got it done, maybe not the best use of my time, but satisfaction wise you can't beat thinking I did that myself any very few would have the mind and focus to carry on and succeed.







Good luck!!




A friend of mine owns a garage, and i wouldnt recommend working on the airbag yourself, as several mechanics have been killed in recent times when the airbag went off. Rather than an in your face impact, a side on impact when working on the car interior= broken neck.


But if you disconnected the battery then would it still go off?

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 17 March 2013 12:44 PM
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I must admit I was careful when it came to switching everything on, but just like day to day sparkying the is a risk. The thing that got me was the airbag ECU has a sensor which is really like a ball bearing in a tube when this hits the other end, bang off they go, so it would not much much of a large pothole to do some damage!!
 17 March 2013 03:03 PM
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ok, just to keep everyone up to speed with the lack of speed of my vivaro.

IT STILL DON'T FLECKING WORK

Found out why the heap of junk stalled in reverse and some lights were coming on. poxy design fault in my view. The crank shaft sensor on the bottom of the lump is hard up against a cooling pipe so when you try to drive in reverse the engine moves and pushes the plug against the pipe, a couple of tye raps sorted that, so off I went up the road no problems what so ever, stopped and tried reverse and all went smooth, problem sorted, or so I thought. drove home turned the engine off and was a happy bunny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, untill just now...............................I went to start the van and the flecking thing wont rev over 2000 rmp but this time not even a single warning light on. Put a scope on the MAP sensor and the output doesn't seem to change no matter how hard I blow into it so thats the next thing to be changed.
so so far, rewired engine wiring loom because I found so many faults on that, boost sol changed, crank sensor plug bodged on with ty raps to stop the cooling pipes moving it.


Please I just want a simple old escort van, i dont care if they're small at least they go
 17 March 2013 08:15 PM
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Airbag trigers are nice and simple. A ball which on impact runs up a slope and drops onto a pair of contacts or a ball held in place by a magnet and on impact breaks free to again make a pair of contacts.
KISS comes to mind, (keep it simple stupid).

Static electricity can be an issue when handling electrical connections linked to airbags.

We used to carry out airbag testing in our test lab, the fun test was setting every airbag in the car off at the same time to see make sure the windows didn't blow out!
 17 March 2013 09:21 PM
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This is what was wrong with ours (took ages to rev up, lack of power and even limited itself to 20mph);
http://raindefence.hubpages.co...-primastar-diesel-van

And these were on google when i searched for egr valve

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...gid=10000000175210617
http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...gid=10000000175210704
http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...ugid=10000000175211084
 19 March 2013 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by: prophet

This is what was wrong with ours (took ages to rev up, lack of power and even limited itself to 20mph);

http://raindefence.hubpages.co...star-diesel-van



And these were on google when i searched for egr valve



http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...000000175210617

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...000000175210704

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Viva...ugid=10000000175211084


well done - excellent reading!!

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 19 March 2013 09:13 PM
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used the van for work today, 130 miles to a job and then 130 back home and it was ok-ish, stopped in town ro get a curry and then the flecking van wouldn't go. Called the A.A. out and again the engineer was bamboooooozled, his little hand held note pad thingy wouldn't come up with any fault codes or read any "live data", he poked and prodded around for a good 1/2 hour but still no good and as my curry was getting cold he offered to follow me home, which he did, bless him, once home I asked if there was anything to sign and he gave me a piece of paper and then said "I hate to admit it but, the RAC must have better equipment than us as I cant even read the live date"

well I have now eaten my vindaloo and now I will jusy wait to see what tomorrow brings, apart from a warm backside
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